You can immediately verify that a right wing nutjob is incapable of intelligent conversation when he resorts to things like making fun of a candidate's choice of biking clothes.
testify brotha!!!
i am trying to decide which of the two liberal democrat canidates to vote for this election...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aH8EMkkeMCtw&refer=worldwide
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aH8EMkkeMCtw&refer=worldwide
McCain is a lib, hell he was damn close to being Kerry's running mate last time around.. come on..
know what?
Cool...
Obama then:
Obama then:
and obama now:
Let's put this into the distiller and see what pops out:
Peeps be trippin' for teh cashola.
Whoa...there's a surprise.
However, since I'm freakin' bored, I'll bite on the troll and play a little devil's advocate:
Clinton accepted contributions from a company that was imploding and screwing the "average American". Check.
Obama's buddy got a bunch of loans. Survey says that they weren't sub-prime and the fact the little c&p tidbit itself says, "though it is difficult to predict a market rate without access to nonpublic information about a borrower's credit history and other factors that can reduce interest charges on a loan." puts up some flags for me. Check.
No absolving goin' on here, but everyone that is that high up in whatever industry is up to their neck in trying to get more moola. End of story.
I'm still surprised that all the people that knew about Tyco, Enron, Global Crossing, etc. et al. didn't rise as one and slay the embezzlers. This 19 million dollar bonus sh*t that's going on while people are losing their shirt is similarly aggrivating.
I'm just surprised there's not a publicly known website that has bounties for certain lending officials and others involved in the felching.
Peeps be trippin' for teh cashola.
Whoa...there's a surprise.
However, since I'm freakin' bored, I'll bite on the troll and play a little devil's advocate:
Clinton accepted contributions from a company that was imploding and screwing the "average American". Check.
Obama's buddy got a bunch of loans. Survey says that they weren't sub-prime and the fact the little c&p tidbit itself says, "though it is difficult to predict a market rate without access to nonpublic information about a borrower's credit history and other factors that can reduce interest charges on a loan." puts up some flags for me. Check.
No absolving goin' on here, but everyone that is that high up in whatever industry is up to their neck in trying to get more moola. End of story.
I'm still surprised that all the people that knew about Tyco, Enron, Global Crossing, etc. et al. didn't rise as one and slay the embezzlers. This 19 million dollar bonus sh*t that's going on while people are losing their shirt is similarly aggrivating.
I'm just surprised there's not a publicly known website that has bounties for certain lending officials and others involved in the felching.
Dude!
N_8, now that you've weighed in on Obama's satorial choices, what do you say about GWB's bikerfox-esque footwear selection?
If I was that close to Georgie with a 10lb sledgehammer while he slept I wouldn't be aiming at his feet.
Future First "Baby Mama"? 
Thank you, Fox news.
Thank you, Fox news.
My favorite part is when Malkin as claiming that thus far the Republican attacks against Michelle Obama have been focused on the substance of her public statements, and have not resorted to personal attacks, while the caption below her reads "Malkin call Michelle Obama "Obama's Bitter Half."Future First "Baby Mama"?
Thank you, Fox news.
You just can't make this stuff up.
The Republicans ought to just start referring to Obama as "The uppity N*****"
It's getting a little old watching them attempt to come up with new ways to imply it without actually saying it. I mean, if you're going to be a racist, at least be proud of it. It's part of your American heritage.
It's getting a little old watching them attempt to come up with new ways to imply it without actually saying it. I mean, if you're going to be a racist, at least be proud of it. It's part of your American heritage.
Finally, McCain says something that makes sense.. congress needs to be bitchslapped asap.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602731_pf.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602731_pf.html
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Although it is good to hear him say this:
Saying "drill for more oil" as his plan for action is inconsistent and disappointing. Tapping domestic sources of oil is more of a solution to the trade deficit. This is a worldwide energy market and drilling "American oil" will make little to no difference in price, domestic oil just keeps the money in our economy. Cutting our energy use is the only real way to cut our energy cost.
Well, also:
That is heartening to hear, but probably just lip service at this point. And by the way, he is also an idiot for going on and on about how we need to cut the federal gas tax for a while.
I mean, it's 18 cents. That'd save me less than $4 per fill up in a 20 gal tank. Or in other words... nothing substantial.
But what's ironic is that, as republicans have become known for lately, he's talking about cutting taxes and at the same time backing more federal subsidies. Yet more debt, I guess.
Nuclear would be good and I would like to see it pushed by an administration. It will still be difficult because of the Not In My Backyard crowd and environmental groups that can't see the forest for the trees. The whole cut taxes and spend thing is the main reason why I can not support McCain, bread and circus is all it is.
Imagine all the jobs (engineers, construction, architects, security, janitors, etc. etc.) if a bunch of nuclear plants popped up. I think some places would be happy to have them. NIMBYism is a pain in the ass, but that whole imminent domain thing has been exercised before. And plus we have Texas as a perfect dumping ground for any waste.
Come to think of it, we could probably solve the illegal immigration problem at the same time by use of some tactically sound dumping sites.
It'd be so nice not to depend on foreign oil anymore...Iraq would suddenly be a non issue I bet. Probably afghanistan too. If opening up offshore drilling were a way out of the middle east, and a transition into a clearly spelled out, bipartisan backed nuclear switch...I'd be fine with it for a short time.
bonus points for the gwar lyric
That goes for any domestic power source, though. If we had large solar/wind/water sites, you would create nearly the same number of jobs only with less waste.
I like the idea of SOME nuclear plants, but money should be spent on all alternatives. Coal and oil get us into trouble, so multiple options leave us open to multiple solutions.
The whole "Not in our backyard" issue goes with prisons, too. I know when Oregon wanted to build one, everyone was up in arms about it except for east Oregon towns that need revenue. I would thing the same approach can be used if the idea of jobs are pitched with it.
Yeah, it just seems so obvious that we should be producing, employing, using and paying for all this stuff within our borders. F***cking coal mining makes me sick, even though it is done domestically, becuase of what's happening to the mountains.
Ironically though, did you know that wildlife is actually flourishing around chernobyl these days? So even in a "disaster" however unlikely that may be, it doesn't turn out as bad as what's going on in the coal mining areas.
After watching a documentary (posted a few weeks ago) on coal, I was pissed beyond words. It sure as hell motivated me to see what happens during mountain top removal.
The special they had on Discovery called "Life after people" showed how pants and animals have taken over a small town that was wiped out by Chernobyl. I just think that AFTER we get the level of consumption down that nuke/hydro/air/solar options will be an easy sell and get off the Saudi tit.
We've waited so long to hop on nuclear that we'll need ANWAR to bridge the 5-10 year gap for plants to come online if we want to avoid (more) serious economic collapse.
It sucks, but we did it to ourselves. I am vehemently opposed to drilling ANWAR, but it WILL happen because we won't be able to take the pain...
And yes, we need to diversify... solar-thermal in the desert, geothermal along the continental divide and west coast, tidal and wind on both coasts, and hydro only where absolutely necessary. However, all of those options are specific to locales. Anywhere that is flat and temperate we HAVE to go with nuclear, which should mean as much as 50% of the grid in the next 25 years.
It sucks, but we did it to ourselves. I am vehemently opposed to drilling ANWAR, but it WILL happen because we won't be able to take the pain...
And yes, we need to diversify... solar-thermal in the desert, geothermal along the continental divide and west coast, tidal and wind on both coasts, and hydro only where absolutely necessary. However, all of those options are specific to locales. Anywhere that is flat and temperate we HAVE to go with nuclear, which should mean as much as 50% of the grid in the next 25 years.
"I don't see the point in conservation. Once we use up all those towelheads oil we've won." -Junior
I've heard theories that it's all a big scam, they have groups that say "we want to drill ANWR" and others that say "you can't drill ANWR", but it's all a distraction to the real fact that when everyone else runs out of oil, we will be sitting on a nice chunk.
But even the experts say if we started drilling today we wouldn't see oil out of ANWAR for at least 5 more years. That's why things like solar are more important IMO because of the turn around time to offset some of the energy.
solar is an expensive pipe dream at this point... the bucks to benifit ratio sux0r0z
Nuke generation is exactly where we are headed... just like France.