[N8 v2.0]

Looks like the advantage is to Clinton here... no wonder she's still in it with a mere 5 months left until the General Election in Nov.

Note: 270 Electoral votes needed to win.


May 21 Electoral Votes:
Obama 242
McCain 285 <--Winna!
Ties 11

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Clinton 284 <--Winna!
McCain 237
Ties 17

 

[$tinkle]

look at all the menstruating hillary's doing

 

[dante]

they need some more recent polls in there. Feb 28th??

 

[N8 v2.0]

they need some more recent polls in there. Feb 28th??

there is a lot more recent data in most states.. did you not look?

 

[dante]

there is a lot more recent data in most states.. did you not look?

So how is using even 1 month old data remotely relevant? The maps have McCain beating Obama in FL by 1 percentage point (44-43%) but the data is almost a month old (April 29th). South Carolina he's behind McCain by 3pts, but the data is from Feb 28th. You don't think anything might have happened in the past 3 months that might have changed that map just a little?

 

[N8 v2.0]

So how is using even 1 month old data remotely relevant? The maps have McCain beating Obama in FL by 1 percentage point (44-43%) but the data is almost a month old (April 29th). South Carolina he's behind McCain by 3pts, but the data is from Feb 28th. You don't think anything might have happened in the past 3 months that might have changed that map just a little?

doubtful

 

[Secret Squirrel]

doubtful

Wait...wat?

 

[N8 v2.0]

As of 23 May Hillary picking up steam:

Clinton 315
McCain 206

-vs-

McCain 272
Obama 242

 

[Toshi]

counting florida and michigan results in that chart invalidates it immediately.

 

[N8 v2.0]

counting florida and michigan results in that chart invalidates it immediately.

why do u think that?

if hillary runs for pres she take FL if obama runs, it goes to McCain.


Neither has a majority in MI

 

[LordOpie]

I think Toshi was thinking the numbers were regarding the nomination voting?

 

[N8 v2.0]

Clinton -vs- McCain

Obama -vs- McCain

 

[Toshi]

I think Toshi was thinking the numbers were regarding the nomination voting?

how can you measure the will of the voters in states where not all the candidates in question competed or appeared on the ballot?

 

[N8 v2.0]

how can you measure the will of the voters in states where not all the candidates in question competed or appeared on the ballot?

by polls in this case, d'uh..

 

[LordOpie]

how can you measure the will of the voters in states where not all the candidates in question competed or appeared on the ballot?

I didn't look at the numbers. I just assumed these were polls being regularly updated?

 

[Toshi]

I didn't look at the numbers. I just assumed these were polls being regularly updated?

not that fresh

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

 

[N8 v2.0]

If hillary stays in, she wins it... if obama is the candidate, damn good chance mccain takes it.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Have fun!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm

 

[ohio]

Toshi's link currently shows 317 Obama to 221 McCain
Neight's link currently shows 248 Obama to 135 McCain

Everything's coming up roses.

 

[jimmydean]

So much for the swing:

An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found a wide gap last week: Women favored Obama over McCain, 52% to 33%. The survey also found that voters who cast ballots for Clinton in the Democratic primaries preferred Obama over McCain, 61% to 19%.

 

[sanjuro]

Since our electorate has put Bush into office twice, I am deathly afraid of the electoral count.

 

[jimmydean]

The first win was a mistake, the second win was because no sitting pres has ever lost a reelection in a time of war (Not to mention a weak opponent). I think a lot of people thought GWB might actually do some good the second time.

Oops.

 

[ohio]

I think a lot of people thought GWB might actually do some good the second time.

When I meet these people, I punch them in the neck.

 

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

Mitt Zombie.
1.5 star.

 

[dante]

Have fun!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm

ha, it's relatively easy to get to 269 / 269. :huh:

(give McCain most of the southern states including FL and NH, give Obama MI, PA, CO and NM...)

 

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

These kinds of videos are funny .Everyone is fair game !

BUSH on ZOMBIES

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[ohio]

not that fresh

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

As of June 25...
Obama 328
McCain 183

 

[N8 v2.0]

As of June 25...
Obama 328
McCain 183

116 are barely Dem whilst 38 are barely Rep... and FL (27) is tied.

 

[dante]

116 are barely Dem whilst 38 are barely Rep... and FL (27) is tied.

so take away 116 from Obama and 38 away from McCain, and you're at:

212 for Obama
145 for McCain

yeah, that's a total landslide for McCain right there...

 

[N8 v2.0]

so take away 116 from Obama and 38 away from McCain, and you're at:

212 for Obama
145 for McCain

yeah, that's a total landslide for McCain right there...

so shall we call it over and forget the election then?

 

[dante]

so shall we call it over and forget the election then?

nope, one team's head in the first quarter. although I'm assuming you're still claiming they're both playing for the same team.... :biggrin:

 

[N8 v2.0]

nope, one team's head in the first quarter. although I'm assuming you're still claiming they're both playing for the same team.... :biggrin:

they are so similar its hard to tell them apart

 

[Samirol]

they are so similar its hard to tell them apart

yeah, they are only different on:

Abortion
Economy
Torture
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights
Business
Crime/Punishment
Drugs
Education
Energy
Oil
Environment
Sex Education
Foreign Policy
Trade
Government Reform
Gun Control
Health Care
Defense/Homeland Security
Immigration
Unions
Minimum Wage
Social Security
Tax Reform

 

[N8 v2.0]

yeah, they are only different on:

Abortion
Economy
Torture
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights
Business
Crime/Punishment
Drugs
Education
Energy
Oil
Environment
Sex Education
Foreign Policy
Trade
Government Reform
Gun Control
Health Care
Defense/Homeland Security
Immigration
Unions
Minimum Wage
Social Security
Tax Reform

not that different.. kinda like shades of blue

 

[Samirol]

Pro-Life vs pro-choice
bail out those screwed by home loans vs bailing out companies
anti-torture vs pro-torture
pro-AA based on income, not race vs anti-AA
pro-gay rights vs anti-gay rights
cap subsidies to big business vs cut taxes for big business
somewhat pro-rehabilitation vs anti-rehabilitation
help drug addicts quit vs don't help drug addicts
free public college for good students vs none
higher MPG requirements vs not higher
pro-energy independence vs not anti-independence (going by voting records)
Close on environment, but McCain voted no on protecting California deserts
Pro-contraceptive education vs anti-contraceptive education
diplomacy vs big stick
Wants to fix NAFTA vs not fix nafta
McCain wants to eliminate 20% of government programs
pro-gun control vs anti-gun control
huge differences in health care
pro-habeus corpus vs anti-habeus corpus
anti-DADT vs pro-DADT (falls under gay rights)
no preemptive war vs pro-preemptive war
extend benefits to immigrants vs not extending them (like Medicaid)
pro-union vs anti-union
higher minimum wage vs not higher
don't privatize SS vs privatize
Cut taxes for poor/middle class up to 200k vs cut taxes for rich

 

[Defenestrated]

diplomacy vs liberating the **** outta them

 

[ohio]

anti-torture vs pro-torture

C'mon dude, you're just splitting hairs. They're practically 99.9999% the same if you compare the all-important measure of genome.