Good point. I just find it amusing how every pot smoker comes out of the woodwork to either defend their hobby or brag about how great their last doob was, every time the subject is brought up
Miles Rockwell BUSTED for growing weed....
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You might quote some references for these "facts" that you've stated. I'm actually interested...........Originally posted by Lexx D
Yeah that's me narrow minded and impossible to talk to.All these "facts" i don't know what to do.
It's obviously not worth my time to have a "discussion". i never insulted anyones intellignce like you have. Since you have chose to ignore the other side simply because they're "pot heads". I award you Echo with the narrow minded prick of the day award.
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Wow. I'm so humbled to recieve this prestigious award... I'd like to thank...
You are making my point for me...
It is less the need or overpowering love of cannabis than the inability to reconcile the inconsistencies in our nation's drug policies. It's a mostly harmless plant that has been used for centuries safely before our government decided it was the devil's harvest. It's not the "right" to smoke dope- it's the right to do what we want with our own bodies. Tell some people that they can't plant an apple tree in their own back yard because of HOA covenents or EPA regs and you'll get a similar response.
Nobody has ever died?
You must be stoned right now. Are you saying that NOBODY has ever been in a car accident while impaired by weed? I got three deaths in my HS graduating class ('88) alone that says your wrong. My sisters boss was killed when he was hit on Hwy-9 in Santa Cruz by a guy who was stoned. My god, that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
How do you use weed?
YOU SMOKE IT!
Pot smokers experience the EXACT SAME physiological damages as tobacco smokers do. Especially if they are smoking joints rather than using a bong. You are inhaling the gasses of a burning substance. It damages the tissue of the mouth, trachea, and lungs.
Quit getting your info from other pot smokers.
And i find it amusing how the morality police come out of the woodwork everytime the topic comes up. It's a two way street echo. You won't listen to me since I'm a "pot head" and obviously don't have a brain.
And i won't listen to you since instead of facts all you do is attack my intelligence. And talk about how "they will say anything and everything to convince themselves it's okay". Whatever.
And i won't listen to you since instead of facts all you do is attack my intelligence. And talk about how "they will say anything and everything to convince themselves it's okay". Whatever.
look at the causes of death in the statement it had nothing to do with driving. I'm very sorry for those people and the families. But people have been killed from drivers under the influence of many things including lack of sleep.Originally posted by Damn True
Nobody has ever died?
My sisters boss was killed when he was hit on Hwy-9 in Santa Cruz by a guy who was stoned. My god, that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
How do you use weed?
YOU SMOKE IT!
Pot smokers experience the EXACT SAME physiological damages as tobacco smokers do. Especially if they are smoking joints rather than using a bong. You are inhaling the gasses of a burning substance. It damages the tissue of the mouth, trachea, and lungs.
Quit getting your info from other pot smokers.
Oh and since you brought it up... go back and read my posts.Originally posted by Lexx D
Yeah that's me narrow minded and impossible to talk to.
All I did was make an observation about how frequent users of marijuana tend to become defensive when people don't agree with their opinion that marijuana use is okay. The fact that you flipped out and got super defensive is actually hilarious
Although it's been quite a while, I'm not against the occasional toke. And if you were paying attention, I stated earlier in this very thread that I thought legalization was a good idea.
But if I were to choose to take that occasional toke, and got busted, it wouldn't be "the man's" fault, and it wouldn't be the stupid law's fault. It would be my fault, because I knew the consequences and accepted them.
Yeah I hear that no one has died from jumping off a building either...
Just something about not being able to land properly....
umm dude, I don't smoke, but I was agreeing with a bit of what you said until this point...
I see both sides of this argument..... but come on......
Cause of death?
Are you FU$%ING SERIOUS?
The guy was riding his bike along the road and hit by the STONED driver of a car. The cause of death was "HE WAS HIT BY THE STONED DRIVER OF A CAR".
The kids I went to HS with were killed because the driver of the car they were in WAS STONED!
Had the drivers not been stoned the deaths would not have occured. Therefore, cause of death = weed.
BTW, emphasema(sp?) is caused by repeated injury to lung tissue by heat, and or chemical contact. Smoking weed causes emphasema. Emphasema will kill you. Cause of death = weed.
Well this is a riveting conversation, but I'm going for a ride boyz... flame on
Fairly rescently I made a very large purchase for 1 of my 2 main interests/hobbies knowing that I would have to tighten up my spending. This meant no grass for a while. Okay so all of a sudden I stopped smoking grass, went from about 1/4 a week to none. Did I have withdrawl? NO. Was I in a bad mood, NO. Did I suddenly become less or more productive, NO. Did I crave it, NO. As a matter of fact I just realized a few days ago that I hadnt had a sack in a while. I can afford it again so I made a purchase of my favorite herb and still nothing has changed except now I am stoned every once in a while.
So I ask you, how is it addictive? How is it harmful?
Ding! ding! ding! We have a winner! And Miles knew the consequences of what he was doing, and he was a dumba$$ because of it. Hope he brightens up a bit in the Big House.
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Yeah yeah yeah...Originally posted by Dingus McGee
Are Mods allowed to spell like that?
you got me
Aww look everyone ECHO is a pot head..
Just kiddin man...
I just find all this so amazing.. how lot of people on here are getting all up in arms about their side.....
Just chill those that smoke.. go toke up.. those that don't um... go do something and come back and we all can hug a tree when we come back...
... and all be friends...
And what about the guys during Prohabition that defended their right to drink a beer. Is that any less "silly".
Addictive is the wrong word. Weed is not addictive. However it is among the top of the list of substances for which psychological dependancy is exceptionally high. Many folks, have a predisposition toward psychological dependance of some sort.
The object of dependance varries, for some it might be weed, sex, relationships, or lack of. The bottom line is dependancy on anything is psycologicaly harmful. Especially if that thing (weed in this case) is physicaly harmful as well.
becuz you're a bad person and a stoner for liking drugs and therefore a second rate citizen in society
gimme a fcuking breakand all this talk of smoking, that's sounding pretty good right about now, a couple tokes and a 6'er of Sam Adams and sit here and watch the rain come down in sheets
Not at all. IMO it was equally silly.
No. But they legally got their "right" back. So far, the marij lobby has not gotten it. They're doing a pretty reasonable job, it just isn't there yet.
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True,
died directly from cannabis use. Alcohol can cause death by alcohol poisoning, asphyxiation, cardiomyopathy, and cardiac infarct (heart attack).
I'm not saying anything thing about driving or walking for that matter. I was trying to reference direct health issues, Such as a person drinks to much and dies of alcohol poisoning.
i feel we're arguing to seperate issues here.
died directly from cannabis use. Alcohol can cause death by alcohol poisoning, asphyxiation, cardiomyopathy, and cardiac infarct (heart attack).
I'm not saying anything thing about driving or walking for that matter. I was trying to reference direct health issues, Such as a person drinks to much and dies of alcohol poisoning.
i feel we're arguing to seperate issues here.
Your parents would be proud.Originally posted by Cooter Brown
becuz you're a bad person and a stoner for liking drugs and therefore a second rate citizen in society
and all this talk of smoking, that's sounding pretty good right about now, a couple tokes and a 6'er of Sam Adams and sit here and watch the rain come down in sheets
I guess when I think of addictive I think of the body having withdrawl and craving the substance and causing behavioral changes in the person. Ex: Smokers become pretty hostile when they are trying to quit. Alcoholics actually get sick because their bodies 'need' the alcohol. Heroin, cocaine, etc etc, they all have withdrawl symptoms. That to me is addiction..
If some one is addicted to a non physically addictive substance or activity then I say that it its their minds that have the problem.
SOMEONES gotta sell it...it didn't say he was selling it to children...jeezOriginally posted by slcpunk21
Fack.. man I used to look up to this dude.. .figuratively and literally.
Thought he was an awsome guy (from what I saw). Hell I don't care if he smokes the sheit... just if all that is true then we was selling to, and that just aint cool.
Word... I had the window of my car cracked and I heard it coming down outside... I had to run out through that $hit all the way to my car (bout 25 yards) I got completely soaked. Even my socks are wet.Originally posted by Cooter Brown
becuz you're a bad person and a stoner for liking drugs and therefore a second rate citizen in society
and all this talk of smoking, that's sounding pretty good right about now, a couple tokes and a 6'er of Sam Adams and sit here and watch the rain come down in sheets
Did you miss, or just chose to ignore (or were you stoned and didn't comprehend) the part about emphasema?
And yes echo I had noticed your first post. it doesn't change the second. Basically calling me ignorant, that is what got me going not the argument at hand. In fact it seemed to be a rather civil debate.Originally posted by Echo
Dude you should know by now that it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion about this with a pot smoker... they will say anything and everything to convince themselves it's okay, and they will ignore or become angry/defensive about any facts you state that they don't like... you know the drill
Originally posted by BurlySurly
Your parents would be proud.
well, since I don't have my nose inserted so far up my dad's ass trying to gain his approval for everything I do, and can actually think for myself and make my own choices and decisions, I'm really not too worried about it
You thought it was silly that they fought to have the right to drink beer?
Do they not have that right?
B U R N !Originally posted by Cooter Brown
well, since I don't have my nose inserted so far up my dad's ass trying to gain his approval for everything I do, and can actually think for myself and make my own choices and decisions, I'm really not too worried about it
I think someone just got OWNEDOriginally posted by Cooter Brown
well, since I don't have my nose inserted so far up my dad's ass trying to gain his approval for everything I do, and can actually think for myself and make my own choices and decisions, I'm really not too worried about it
Originally posted by Cooter Brown
I'm really not too worried about it
That's apparent.
So is the give-a-**** attitude that seems to accompany most stoners.
What a triumph of personal empowerment.Originally posted by Cooter Brown
well, since I don't have my nose inserted so far up my dad's ass trying to gain his approval for everything I do, and can actually think for myself and make my own choices and decisions, I'm really not too worried about it
Enjoy dope.
People have made me realize i'm a wasted soul and have lived my life wrong on so many levels. I'm gonna change my ways........as soon as I finish this sack of blueberry.:evil:
yeah
I will, enjoy your perch on that soapbox
umm ok now where in the hell did you see me say CHILDREN? Gotta get some glasses there girl.Originally posted by dh girlie
SOMEONES gotta sell it...it didn't say he was selling it to children...jeez
I'm saying two wrongs don't make a right. Fine if you have a habbit and need to grow your own to support it fine (support as in not selling duh). But don't support other peoples illegal choices too. My point being he did then two illegal things not just one for himself.
Oh and when you do sell it.. what you think that the only people that get that are who he sold it directly to? It is possible that it could end up in hands of people he doesn't freakin know or whatever. (and that wasn't even my point)
right back at yah babe
You can also eat it or vaporize it.
Also, last time I checked, we didn't throw tobacco growers into prison for 20 years to get sodomized for growing a plant...
We also don't outlaw fvcking, having relationships, or not having relationships.
We also don't have laws against: fatty food, sports cars, Drano, rat poison, swimming pools, automobiles, etc.
All potentially deadly things.
Not a bad idea though.
Lexx said it wasn't harmfull
I was merely rebutting that statement. Id guess that the overwhelming majority of folks smoke it and by doing so expose themselves to significant risk of emphasema and a number of other nasty afflictions.- Status