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Silver

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Originally posted by Damn True
Not a bad idea though.

Lexx said it wasn't harmfull :rolleyes: I was merely rebutting that statement. Id guess that the overwhelming majority of folks smoke it and by doing so expose themselves to significant risk of emphasema and a number of other nasty afflictions.
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I think you'd guess wrong. Most people that I know smoke pot smoke significantly less than tobacco smokers I know.

A guess is a ****ty reason to take away a persons freedom...
 
Damn True

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Originally posted by Silver
We also don't outlaw fvcking, having relationships, or not having relationships.

We also don't have laws against: fatty food, sports cars, Drano, rat poison, swimming pools, automobiles, etc.

All potentially deadly things.
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Got your daily episode of contradiction for the sake of contradiction out of your system?

Context pal.

There was confusion on the use of the term addiction versus psychological dependance. I was elucidating upon that.

....and I have never heard of a psychological dependance on sports cars, drano, rat poison, or swimming pools.

But having a psychological dependance on sex, food, weed or relationships IS harmful.
 
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Originally posted by Damn True
Not a bad idea though.

Lexx said it wasn't harmfull :rolleyes: I was merely rebutting that statement. Id guess that the overwhelming majority of folks smoke it and by doing so expose themselves to significant risk of emphasema and a number of other nasty afflictions.
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Aha, i'm not saying it isn't harmfull. I'm saying it isn't harmfull when compared to things like alcohol(again that alcohol which is legal).

Were you wronged in some way by a smoker? i know the side effects, your not teaching me anything. I'm saying compared to what we can do(drink, cigs, eat mcdonalds)legally it's not bad.
 
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Originally posted by Silver
I think you'd guess wrong. Most people that I know smoke pot smoke significantly less than tobacco smokers I know.

A guess is a ****ty reason to take away a persons freedom...
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Pay attention now and I'll help you get caught up.

I said
"How do you use weed?
YOU SMOKE IT!
Pot smokers experience the EXACT SAME physiological damages as tobacco smokers do. Especially if they are smoking joints rather than using a bong. You are inhaling the gasses of a burning substance. It damages the tissue of the mouth, trachea, and lungs.

Quit getting your info from other pot smokers. "

To which you replied,
"You can also eat it or vaporize it. "

Then I said,

"Id guess that the overwhelming majority of folks smoke it and by doing so expose themselves to significant risk of emphasema and a number of other nasty afflictions."

By which, and I think most folks got it, I meant that the majority of people who use it do so by way of smoking. Quantity never entered the discussion. But if you'd like to toss it in the mix, allow me the following.
Does the number of bullets in the cylinder make russian roulette any safer?

Let me spell it out.
a) Smoke inhalation is bad for you
b) When you smoke pot, you inhale smoke
c) Inhaling a lot of smoke is really bad for you
d) Inhaling smoke less frequently is still bad for you.

Smoking weed CAUSES emphasema. There is no way you can talk you way around that.
 
Silver

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Originally posted by Damn True
Got your daily episode of contradiction for the sake of contradiction out of your system?

Context pal.

There was confusion on the use of the term addiction versus psychological dependance. I was elucidating upon that.

....and I have never heard of a psychological dependance on sports cars, drano, rat poison, or swimming pools.

But having a psychological dependance on sex, food, weed or relationships IS harmful.
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So why aren't we outlawing sex and relationships then, if they can be harmful?

You're not arguing from a position of strength here, you know...but we've done this dance before and I don't think we're going to agree now.
 
Kornphlake

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I am still of the opinion that bullets are more dangerous than weed, since bullets are legal weed should be too... come on, can't somebody put together a solid argument without having to get all emotional about the issue? Post some scientific facts. Somebody already mentioned that all studies that are highly biased on this issue, so maybe it's time for somebody to do an unbiased study. If you're so pro-pot, and apparently there are several individuals here who are, why not get organized and have the laws changed?

We can all pull whatever argument we want out of thin air all day long (either for or against) and post it on the internet but in the end what does it accomplish? Its illegal now and it's not my responsibility to make it legal if I don't partake. If somebody could convince me it's not harmfull by presenting an organized collection of verifiable facts I'd change my feeling on the issue but I'm not going to lobby my legislature for something that doesn't affect me.
 
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And BBQ creates toxins equall to that in like 300-400 cigs. So i can't have BBQ either.
 
SkaredShtles

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Originally posted by Silver
I think you'd guess wrong. Most people that I know smoke pot smoke significantly less than tobacco smokers I know.

A guess is a ****ty reason to take away a persons freedom...
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They probably smoke less because it's friggin' expensive. Well, that and if you chain-smoked Js you'd probably get as big as a house and go broke from buying Doritos. :D

Another problem with Js (when smoked) - since they are unfiltered they have much higher amounts of the really bad stuff goin' into the lungs.

Legalization would probably address most of these issues. But I suspect that, like cigs, the concensus amongst the medical community would be: Js will kill you. Give you cancer, emphysema, etc. etc.

I agree that most of the reasons for criminalization are pretty lame, but if you really care, the channels for change are there. Just don't be too surprised at the resistance.

-S.S.-
 
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Originally posted by Kornphlake
I am still of the opinion that bullets are more dangerous than weed, since bullets are legal weed should be too... come on, can't somebody put together a solid argument without having to get all emotional about the issue? Post some scientific facts. Somebody already mentioned that all studies that are highly biased on this issue, so maybe it's time for somebody to do an unbiased study. If you're so pro-pot, and apparently there are several individuals here who are, why not get organized and have the laws changed?

We can all pull whatever argument we want out of thin air all day long (either for or against) and post it on the internet but in the end what does it accomplish?
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But teacher, why are you sending me to the principals office for being tardy. Tommy cut school yesterday and that's worse right?

Officer, you shouldn't write me this ticket for 35 in a 25. Don't you realize that there might be a robbery in progress right now. Robbery is worse than speeding right?
 
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Originally posted by Damn True
Which perhaps illustrates why they call it dope.

BTW, the very definition of dependancy is someone who choses to do something despite knowing and experiencing the negative effects of doing so.
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Yes thank you again for the lesson. But seeing that i have taken many classes in sports medecine and exercise phys. I knew that.
"Which perhaps illustrates why they call it dope" Oh another attack at my intelligence:thumb:
 
dh girlie

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Originally posted by slcpunk21
umm ok now where in the hell did you see me say CHILDREN? Gotta get some glasses there girl.

I'm saying two wrongs don't make a right. Fine if you have a habbit and need to grow your own to support it fine (support as in not selling duh). But don't support other peoples illegal choices too. My point being he did then two illegal things not just one for himself.


Oh and when you do sell it.. what you think that the only people that get that are who he sold it directly to? It is possible that it could end up in hands of people he doesn't freakin know or whatever. (and that wasn't even my point)

right back at yah babe :rolleyes:
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You're so lame sometimes...I was saying big friggin deal, he was growing weed...it didnt' say he was selling it to children...I KNOW you didn't say that...I was just saying what's the big deal...Myles Rockwells growin weed...whoop te doo...its a fact that weed, and crack, and smack and all kindsa other bad illegal stuff goes down...you do it...you get caught...you pay the price...you do it...you don't get caught...then good for you I suppose...there are a hell of a lot worse things going on in this world that some dude growing weed...need I post the link to that poor fcucker gettin his head cut off????
 
Silver

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Originally posted by Kornphlake
I am still of the opinion that bullets are more dangerous than weed, since bullets are legal weed should be too... come on, can't somebody put together a solid argument without having to get all emotional about the issue? Post some scientific facts. Somebody already mentioned that all studies that are highly biased on this issue, so maybe it's time for somebody to do an unbiased study. If you're so pro-pot, and apparently there are several individuals here who are, why not get organized and have the laws changed?

We can all pull whatever argument we want out of thin air all day long (either for or against) and post it on the internet but in the end what does it accomplish?
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It would be nice to see a study.

Try to get one done. Marijuana is a schedule I drug...
 
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Originally posted by Lexx D
Yes thank you again for the lesson. But seeing that i have taken many classes in sports medecine and exercise phys. I knew that.
"Which perhaps illustrates why they call it dope" Oh another attack at my intelligence:thumb:
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....and you didn't seem to learn from any of it so it seems you have done just fine at putting that into question without assistance from me. My apologies.
You are on your own from here on out.
 
Lucee

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Originally posted by Damn True
Did you miss, or just chose to ignore (or were you stoned and didn't comprehend) the part about emphasema?
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This ex stoner just had to correct ya, there, True.:p And, honestly, True, you know i love you, so I'm just gonna tell you straight up, when making an argument, if you really want the person to be receptive to your words, you shouldn't insult or condescend. But, what do I know?
 
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Originally posted by Damn True
Which perhaps illustrates why they call it dope.

BTW, the very definition of dependancy is someone who choses to do something despite knowing and experiencing the negative effects of doing so.
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Like riding Downhill? I know WAY more people that got Fd up doing that!!

True is an ADDICT!!!
 
Lexx D

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Originally posted by Damn True
....and you didn't seem to learn from any of it so it seems you have done just fine at putting that into question without assistance from me. My apologies.
You are on your own from here on out.
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HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT TRUE. Yes it's not a healthy snack but there are worse things in this world. that's it. Saying things like "and you didn't seem to learn from any of it" show how you are not listening to what i've said. I know the effects and we have legal substances that are bad for you and worse things in this world to worry about. I hope you don't have trouble figuring out "worse things in this world"
 
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Originally posted by Damn True
Got your daily episode of contradiction for the sake of contradiction out of your system?

Context pal.

There was confusion on the use of the term addiction versus psychological dependance. I was elucidating upon that.

....and I have never heard of a psychological dependance on sports cars, drano, rat poison, or swimming pools.

But having a psychological dependance on sex, food, weed or relationships IS harmful.
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hi DT


ive been reading this thread and your replies have caught my attention, you see, you are refering to a lot of things in very black and white terms as if you had a good theorical background, but in most cases i see a lot of flaws in your logic, almost as if you were reciting things.

you see, for instance, psychological dependece, this is a condition that is entirely a construct of the mind, therefore you can ideed be "psychologically addicted" to the oddest things, say, sunscreen.

in the case of THC, its actually more factual to talk about "social addiction".

when it comes to emphysema, well, one cannot deny the fact that inhaling ANY smoke in sufficient quantities CAN cause emphysema.
the problem with that argument, however, lies in the numbers, its easy to forget that life isnt black and white, but the truth is that emphysema caused by THC burning is pretty much a non-issue because of the quantities involved. you might want to look up the numbers to contrast them with your argument, with the numbers i mean the ratio of smoke an average pot user inhales v/s the amount of smoke that passes through the respiratory system of your average cigarrette user.

im sure you will find this to be an overwhelming difference, so much so that you will pretty much dismiss the whole emphysema argument, especially for any person that works in a cigarette smoker environment or in a polluted city.
 
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Originally posted by SkaredShtles
I'm not sure that I've ever seen any studies linking BBQ to increased risks of colon cancer....... but I haven't looked very hard. :)

-S.S.-
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eating meat is linked to colon cancer.

its irrelevant really though. everything causes cancer.
 
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Originally posted by SkaredShtles
Ah, yes, but BBQ can be of the non-meat variety, no? What about the substances from BBQ-ing vegetables?

-S.S.-
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oh wait, i see whats going on here. i dont do debates, sorry. :cool:
 
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Originally posted by Lexx D
Wow this thread has gotten wild.:eek: People have made me realize i'm a wasted soul and have lived my life wrong on so many levels. I'm gonna change my ways........as soon as I finish this sack of blueberry.:evil:
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Blueberry! I'm guessing thats a strain of the mean green...the chronic...the cripple?

Y'all are some SERIOUS stoners...you have NAMES for it! hahaha! I just remember you could get 'nickel' bags...and 'dime' bags of sensimilla...hahhaha!
 
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Originally posted by Lucee
Emphysema



This ex stoner just had to correct ya, there, True.:p And, honestly, True, you know i love you, so I'm just gonna tell you straight up, when making an argument, if you really want the person to be receptive to your words, you shouldn't insult or condescend. But, what do I know?
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The salient point here is that finally, once and for all, Lucee has admitted to loving me.:love: :cool: Not that I ever doubted it though.
 
Lexx D

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Originally posted by SkaredShtles
Ah, yes, but BBQ can be of the non-meat variety, no? What about the substances from BBQ-ing vegetables?

-S.S.-
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i think it's 300 dergrees. So anytime you cook at over 300 degrees F. you put carcinogens into your food. Carcinogens are proven to cause cancer.
 
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Originally posted by Lexx D
i think it's 300 dergrees. So anytime you cook at over 300 degrees F. you put carcinogens into your food. Carcinogens are proven to cause cancer.
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300deg in general, or just over a burning substance like wood or propane?

I mean, the frying pan I cooked my eggs in this morning was probably close to that temprature. Did I eat carcinogenic huevos?

What if you are smoking something? You cook that at far less than 300deg. But for a long time. I think the smoke (or more acurately the byproduct of burning something) component is what is key here. Not necesarily the heat.
 
Lexx D

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Originally posted by Damn True
300deg in general, or just over a burning substance like wood or propane?

I mean, the frying pan I cooked my eggs in this morning was probably close to that temprature. Did I eat carcinogenic huevos?

What if you are smoking something? You cook that at far less than 300deg. But for a long time. I think the smoke (or more acurately the byproduct of burning something) component is what is key here. Not necesarily the heat.
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It's just 300 baby. stove, gas electric don't matter meng. And yes your eggs had some carcinogens. My old nutrition teacher ate raw food and stew(low heat ,long cooking) for this reason. BBQ has the highest carcinogens but they produced any time you cook at above a certain heat.
 
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POTS LEGAL IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? when did this happen, any one know the quikest way north?
 
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it amazes me that one of the defense techniques for so many things is "there are worse things in the world"....there will always be something worse...does that make it OK:confused:
 
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