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Minion/High Roller or something else for slippery conditions ??

Lumpy_Gravy

Monkey
Sep 16, 2003
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MikeD said:
I ride Comp 24s. All the time. Everywhere...

but in claylike mud, they're just terrible. Maybe if you cut them, racerboy style, they're better (I don't have the time or desire to), but not in peanutbutter-sticky or soft-clay mud. Under these conditions, they're just big, heavy slicks.
24's f+r .....thats what I dont like about the minions, they are soooo round they are almost like comp 32's i.e. ballons.

maxxis swampthings or mud 3's. :love:
 

Supa8

Monkey
May 3, 2002
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Middle of MA
Only issues I had with the Comp 16 2.2" is the side wall is a bit thinner than the 2.5". That and they started to fall apart real quick.

The 2.5" frt 2.2" combo works great in New England with all the different conditions we see.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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I dunno. I have yet to personally encounter a condition that phases the Comp 32s...then again, I live where it's dry. I *like* the balloon profile...just not the weight and rolling resistance.

MD
 

profro

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
5,617
314
Walden Ridge
seismic said:
WOW, - so DHF+DHF ? Any conditions you think this combination does not work or is it quite good overall ( I am not sponsered so I have to admit that my tire budget is limited too ).
Something about the channels in that tire make it able to lean extremely hard without braking loose. If you look at the DHF is had lots of channels that traverse along the tire, not across. That allows the tire to grip better when side load is applied i.e. leaning and turning. The DHR has more knobs that traverse across the tire, not along. This helps in braking, but for me hurts its gripping ablity. In super steep decents I notice the slightly worse braking of the DHF, but I compensate by letting of the brakes and cornering harder to control my speed.

When I first switched to Maxxis, I used to be a Michi man, I was told by a good friend to run the DHFs front and rear. He, by the way, is a tire designer at Maxxis. At first I tried 2 DHRs because I had hoped that they would preform like the Michi Comp 24.1s. As I kept trying tire combinations to find something I liked I ended up finding that the DHF f/r was the best for me in all conditions expect full on mud courses.

If you have a tight budget, I would suggest a 2.5 (40a) DHF up front and a 2.5 (60d) in the rear. That is what I run through the winter. During the summer I'll run a 42a up front instead, but still keep the 60d in the rear. For races I'll switch to 42a unless the course is rocky then I might run a 40a up front only, but still keep the 42a on the rear.
 

big man

Chimp
Nov 9, 2004
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da Rebel County in Ireland
well i live in ireland. a fact is this season we only had 1 dry race so i know what mus is like. in 99% of the time most of us were running either High rollors or Swampthings. size is pretty much down to preference but i am running 2.5ST swampthings on the front with 2.35 on the back if thats any good to ya.
but i find the High rollors are the best All conditions tyre ive tried.
 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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South East Asia
profro said:
Something about the channels in that tire make it able to lean extremely hard without braking loose. If you look at the DHF is had lots of channels that traverse along the tire, not across. That allows the tire to grip better when side load is applied i.e. leaning and turning. The DHR has more knobs that traverse across the tire, not along. This helps in braking, but for me hurts its gripping ablity. In super steep decents I notice the slightly worse braking of the DHF, but I compensate by letting of the brakes and cornering harder to control my speed.

When I first switched to Maxxis, I used to be a Michi man, I was told by a good friend to run the DHFs front and rear. He, by the way, is a tire designer at Maxxis. At first I tried 2 DHRs because I had hoped that they would preform like the Michi Comp 24.1s. As I kept trying tire combinations to find something I liked I ended up finding that the DHF f/r was the best for me in all conditions expect full on mud courses.

If you have a tight budget, I would suggest a 2.5 (40a) DHF up front and a 2.5 (60d) in the rear. That is what I run through the winter. During the summer I'll run a 42a up front instead, but still keep the 60d in the rear. For races I'll switch to 42a unless the course is rocky then I might run a 40a up front only, but still keep the 42a on the rear.
I have just ordered your winter setup. I am looking forward to try it. Thanks for all the advice, guys ! :) :) :)
 

profro

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
5,617
314
Walden Ridge
Seismic,

I think you'll like these tires. I run Maxxis Welterweight tubes and these tires around 30-35 psi with very few flats. The last race I did I stupidly ran a 2.7 Highroller up front to try and get some traction of the wet rocks and a buddy of mine ran Michi Comp 32s and we couldn't have been more dissappointed in our tire selections. The track was a muddy, boggy mess in sections and the Highroller acted like a semi slick as did the Comp 32. After the race I knew I should have stayed with my DHFs and I was sick to look around and see everyone else running their 2.5 DHFs.