probably has nothing to do with the office itself and more the local / regional infrastructure and how well equipped they are to respond to snow.There is some novelty now that I've gotten to work. Our office is split between KC and Denver, so we have different weather protocals. I got an email from Saturday saying that Denver is expecting 12" of snow and it is business as usual. KC is expecting 12" of snow and the office is shut down. WTF is that? Apparently the expectation is that less than 18" and we're good to go. Over 10" and KC is shut down. Kinda f*ed up in my opinion.
I get that. I still find it silly that in places where it definitely snows, that they don't have the infrastructure to handle it. I mean, they are at the same latitude as us and even farther into the real mid-west snow belt. If anything, it's just poor municipal planning.probably has nothing to do with the office itself and more the local / regional infrastructure and how well equipped they are to respond to snow.
for instance, here in PA we can deal with a few inches of snow no problem. My in-laws who live a little more than an hour south in maryland, well, whenever they get a dusting of snow everything pretty much shuts down; apparently MD isn't really all that well equipped for snow.
KC is definitely not equipped for major snow storms. My wife's sister & brother-in-law live just west of KC and they get MAYBE a couple of dustings of snow each year. As soon as they get more than a few inches then pretty much the whole city shuts down.I get that. I still find it silly that in places where it definitely snows, that they don't have the infrastructure to handle it. I mean, they are at the same latitude as us and even farther into the real mid-west snow belt. If anything, it's just poor municipal planning.
sore shoulders and neck for a while.......have to pick up a 400# person in a wheelchair
Hope you did the old CYA HR move - just verify dates of employment. That's code for "Don't hire this person".Just got a call from a company looking for a professional reference for a person who worked for our company for a while. Problem is, she was terrible at it. It took her three months to learn how to do something, and she did it wrong. She didn't bother to ask before putting me down for a reference. Uh.
can you elaborate? I will try my hardest to not bag on this person but I also don't want to lie to somebody about how bad she was...Hope you did the old CYA HR move - just verify dates of employment. That's code for "Don't hire this person".
Isn't there some law or mandate that makes it illegal to give someone a bad reference? Which is why the most 'negative' thing you can say about a person is simply say 'yup, they did in fact work here from date to date' and leave it at that.can you elaborate? I will try my hardest to not bag on this person but I also don't want to lie to somebody about how bad she was...
Haven't seen it, but did read the book! It's a good one! Can't wait to see the movie!Hi there.
Up and at 'em. Beautiful chilly morning here, everything blanketed in a nice layer of snow. Beautiful.
Skied Friday and Sunday, my legs are worked but I'm not really complaining.
Has anyone seen Life of Pi?
I'm with you!I'm not skiing today.
#thisdaysucks #firstworldproblems
I think many companies have "neutral reference" mandates, but most aren't laws, I believe. I can't imagine that you could legislate that, unless it was proven to be untrue or malicious. As far as personal, asked references, they can say whatever they like, to my understanding, which is why you want to ask first, and make sure they'll give you a positive one.Isn't there some law or mandate that makes it illegal to give someone a bad reference? Which is why the most 'negative' thing you can say about a person is simply say 'yup, they did in fact work here from date to date' and leave it at that.
You open yourself up to a whole world of lawsuits there, buddy. Those two terms you used there could totally be misconstrued. As FT said, the 'neutral' approach of dates of employment is the safest way to message what you said (without actually saying it). Do you have an HR department? Might wanna 'czech with them.I think many companies have "neutral reference" mandates, but most aren't laws, I believe. I can't imagine that you could legislate that, unless it was proven to be untrue or malicious. As far as personal, asked references, they can say whatever they like, to my understanding, which is why you want to ask first, and make sure they'll give you a positive one.
I won't slam her, as she wasn't intentionally bad, she was just a slow learner who made for a bad employee. I think I need some "best micromanaged" and "needs structure to excel" terms.
The way employers around here get around that is to ask a simple question:Isn't there some law or mandate that makes it illegal to give someone a bad reference? Which is why the most 'negative' thing you can say about a person is simply say 'yup, they did in fact work here from date to date' and leave it at that.
This is a legal yes/no question that can kill you as a prospect.Would you hire this person again if given a chance?
so should I just lame duck and not call back, then if I'm pursued, just say that "Our policy is only to confirm dates of employment"?You open yourself up to a whole world of lawsuits there, buddy. Those two terms you used there could totally be misconstrued. As FT said, the 'neutral' approach of dates of employment is the safest way to message what you said (without actually saying it). Do you have an HR department? Might wanna 'czech with them.
When people list me as a reference (which they often do, as I unfortunately or fortunately have responsibility for 25+ employees), I either give a good or a 'name and date' reference. Nothing in the middle ground/grey zone.
I believe it is more for litigation mitigation reasons. Providing a negative 'opinion' that prevents someone from getting a job opens you up for a lawsuit. When working at GE the company policy was that employees were not to be used as references, provide letters of recommendation. That put me in a ****ty situation when looking for a job as most of my professional career was spent at GE. I used references that had retired or left the company.Isn't there some law or mandate that makes it illegal to give someone a bad reference? Which is why the most 'negative' thing you can say about a person is simply say 'yup, they did in fact work here from date to date' and leave it at that.
I would do that, or if you have an HR department, I would forward the call to them. They could then do the whole "date of employment" dealio.so should I just lame duck and not call back, then if I'm pursued, just say that "Our policy is only to confirm dates of employment"?
We have the plow infrastructure to handle it. I think KC cheaps out on plows since it happens less there. That would be my guess...There is some novelty now that I've gotten to work. Our office is split between KC and Denver, so we have different weather protocals. I got an email from Saturday saying that Denver is expecting 12" of snow and it is business as usual. KC is expecting 12" of snow and the office is shut down. WTF is that? Apparently the expectation is that less than 18" and we're good to go. Over 10" and KC is shut down. Kinda f*ed up in my opinion.
You can't give a negative review, unfortunately... I would leave it with 'we didn't try to keep her here, and won't be asking her to come back'.Just got a call from a company looking for a professional reference for a person who worked for our company for a while. Problem is, she was terrible at it. It took her three months to learn how to do something, and she did it wrong. She didn't bother to ask before putting me down for a reference. Uh.
Might still be best to be avoided, however.Know your rights
In Massachusetts, it is illegal for an employer to provide false information about you on purpose.This means that a former employer may give negative information about you, if he or she believes it to be true.
Heh. I've pulled that maneuver in both an Audi and a Subaru. AWD FTMFW.
It was a good movie IMO but it is not for those who have a short attention span.Has anyone seen Life of Pi?
Wow. He didn't even make it a day. That's special.Well......... Co worker bought my Motorcycle today...... he bought it the hard way though. He layed it down and totalled it..... He totalled teh **** out of it too....... Looks like he is mostly ok, gonna need surgery to put his hand back together but walked away........
**** happens, glad I have insurance
Well he thinks he is fixing it for me...... he does not know he is actually purchasing it yet..... Fact is, I cannot take the value loss..... He is gonna have to buy it, fix it, and either ride the hell out of it or sell it for as much as he can..... **** happens, I wanted a bigger bike anwyays.Wow. He didn't even make it a day. That's special.
i'm gonna go ahead and say you guys are gonna wind up on judge judy/joe brown / etcWell he thinks he is fixing it for me...... he does not know he is actually purchasing it yet..... Fact is, I cannot take the value loss..... He is gonna have to buy it, fix it, and either ride the hell out of it or sell it for as much as he can..... **** happens, I wanted a bigger bike anwyays.