i will follow up with: shitpissImma go straight to the point: fuck.
fuckin nimbysMeant to post this here:
Aaaaand it looks like Kingdom Trails are fucked. https://www.caledonianrecord.com/news/local/trio-of-darling-hill-landowners-won-t-allow-kta-mountain/article_6b71e093-e862-5fe1-b197-629d2ef6f918.html?fbclid=IwAR0Sbm97Uu4wRnuJo33mogAMLqBgcMT9DcjpR2JTFjQDH2sYkGF1JQRcnDA
Oh Vermont, never change!
Eh, you wouldn’t have liked it.Wish I'd have skied yesterday.
I'm surprise that this didn't happen before. Building a network of trails on private land is not sustainable, unless the trail association own the land!Meant to post this here:
Aaaaand it looks like Kingdom Trails are fucked. https://www.caledonianrecord.com/news/local/trio-of-darling-hill-landowners-won-t-allow-kta-mountain/article_6b71e093-e862-5fe1-b197-629d2ef6f918.html?fbclid=IwAR0Sbm97Uu4wRnuJo33mogAMLqBgcMT9DcjpR2JTFjQDH2sYkGF1JQRcnDA
Oh Vermont, never change!
i'll bet ya a nickel that there's more to this storyI'm surprise that this didn't happen before. Building a network of trails on private land is not sustainable, unless the trail association own the land!
SEND IN THE 'STACHE!i'll bet ya a nickel that there's more to this story
Like what?i'll bet ya a nickel that there's more to this story
i have no inside information, this just reeks of cantankerous rural vermont folk with chips on their shouldersLike what?
Well, being invaded by hordes of dumbshit tourists every days of the year and getting yelled at by focking entitled twats when walking my own damn land, I would be somewhat cantankerous (I had to goggle that one...)i have no inside information, this just reeks of cantankerous rural vermont folk with chips on their shoulders
these aren't people with lot sizes under an acre.Well, being invaded by hordes of dumbshit tourists every days of the year and getting yelled at by focking entitled twats when walking my own damn land, I would be somewhat cantankerous (I had to goggle that one...)
Just kidding @Nick it was awesome. You should have skied.Eh, you wouldn’t have liked it.
And, coincidentally, a tres deuces kind of day as well.today might be a 3 cup of coffee kind of day
i was in big bear for mountain biking and oktoberfest one year. what a shit showBig Bear weekend with the family. Kids had a great time playing in the snow. I remember why I don't go out of my way to snowboard in SoCal anymore. They got almost 4' of snow about two weeks ago and its basically gone this weekend. Ended up pre-buying tickets through Costco for $75, but they are normally $109, along with the place just being ridiculously packed. I miss bike park days already.
That sucks. But as @Jozz points out, its probably only a matter of time before it happens, theres no garuntee when the land is privately owned. I'm with you that the trails are great, but kind of meh overall. I was there in august and even during the middle of the week it was busy. Can't imagine how busy it gets on weekends.Meant to post this here:
Aaaaand it looks like Kingdom Trails are fucked. https://www.caledonianrecord.com/news/local/trio-of-darling-hill-landowners-won-t-allow-kta-mountain/article_6b71e093-e862-5fe1-b197-629d2ef6f918.html?fbclid=IwAR0Sbm97Uu4wRnuJo33mogAMLqBgcMT9DcjpR2JTFjQDH2sYkGF1JQRcnDA
Oh Vermont, never change!
Well, being invaded by hordes of dumbshit tourists every days of the year and getting yelled at by focking entitled twats when walking my own damn land, I would be somewhat cantankerous (I had to goggle that one...)
these aren't people with lot sizes under an acre.
I bet Nembafest is not helping the cause much, either. I feel sorry for the KTA people but I really won't miss the trails much, it is XC wonderland full of full-on lycra-clad racers.
My initial reaction was a little like Jozz's. Even even if people don't steal and trample on your property, the sheer volume of bikers in town is monumental. Almost like KT got too successful and growth has outpaced the town's ability accommodate the volume of visitors. I generally avoid KT for bike trips with my buddies because it's so crowded (that, and the trails are kinda lame - see lycra-clad contingent. I know there's rad stuff there, but I'd rather ride rad stuff elsewhere in VT and avoid the crowds). I've also found that there is a higher contingent of rude people there. I don't know why, and it's weird, but each time I've been I invariably come across a contingent of rude people. I can imagine as a local, who's offered land to ride on, to have to deal with rude people day in day out would suck.
looks like this area, as they quote willoughby way. My guess is that BEMIS runs through their backyard, and they don't like it. Maybe a few riders cut through their land, or stole shit. I hope that webs and tap n die aren't affected, but the rest of that area can suck eggs.
MTB is nothing compared to snow season. They have offsite parking and shuttle people in.i was in big bear for mountain biking and oktoberfest one year. what a shit show
doubtful. they're specifically excluding mtb, not withdrawing from KTA.I also wonder if the land-owners are looking for compensation?
i meant the drunken shitshow of the big bear oktoberfest. one of my buddies hooked up with a chick in her tent, and another buddy went home with another chick, who's parents were apparently home and they cooked him breakfast the next morning.MTB is nothing compared to snow season. They have offsite parking and shuttle people in.
oh yea. With mountain chicks it’s not your girl, it’s just your turn...i meant the drunken shitshow of the big bear oktoberfest. one of my buddies hooked up with a chick in her tent, and another buddy went home with another chick, who's parents were apparently home and they cooked him breakfast the next morning.
the locals were quite colorful.oh yea. With mountain chicks it’s not your girl, it’s just your turn...
Do users other than bikers even use the trails there?doubtful. they're specifically excluding mtb, not withdrawing from KTA.
my understanding is that the trail system is extremely popular for xc skiing in the winter. not sure if the trails in question are used for that purpose.Do users other than bikers even use the trails there?