Is there a point to saying crap like that, with the idiot-traitor French- guy website? What does that prove to you? That there a dumb person with a website-- Or that a whole country is lame?
I do not think that the entire country of France is lame, just it's government and most of the arrogant a-holes that live in paris.
Wahahahahahaha... Ice Peeps Win Again - OH.
I've never thought of Canadians as dangerous...
Country, Est. # of Military Casualties(WWII)
or just don't understand somethings.
My dad's father died in Germany during WW2 - He was 19 years old. My dad was born a few weeks after my grandmother found out her husband was dead. This was not uncommon for the time.
I agree. I prefer my French fried.Originally posted by ghettorigged
I am not calling them "freedom fries" so forget it.
Bite me! As I stated before, none of you know sh1t about me, so quit thinking you do. You people have taken what I've said so far out of context, and twisted my words so bad, it's pathetic. I will no longer waste my time with this petty topic.Originally posted by JMAC
Mani_Ut you know your shlt but Zibbler you're so racist
1. - During the entire clinton presidency we acted much like the french and did nothing except some token response that did not solve anything. MAke no mistake Bin Laden does what he does because he believes that all non muslims are infidels and less than a dog. They don't believe in taking a life unless it is an infidel like us.Originally posted by JMAC
Mani_Ut you know your shlt but Zibbler you're so racist
1. Bin Laden had the 9/11 happen because back when Clinton was president he went and blow up some embassy in Africa the US shoot a bunch of missile at them and didn't really know what they were blowing up.
They killed lots of civilians.
2. Bin Ladin and all of his crasy guys are part of some idea which they think ever since the Hanging Gardens of Babolon the reason things haven't gone well for them is because they have tryed to copy the west and their god is punishing them for living wrong.
3. Laden thinks that if they start living like they did 400 years ago everything will be good. And god will be nice. Only 1/3 muslim in the middle east beleive this so the only way for laden to take over the government and be able to force people to live like that is to use either an army or a huge mob of people. No military their has people willing to do this. So Laden was hoping that if the US shoot off enough bombs at them and killed lots of people it would piss every one of and make them anti American like the embassy bombing but bigger. Luckily Bush didn't do tha and instead waited almost 3 weeks before attacking Afganistan.
4. Most of Muslims like the US but i think if the US goes to Iraq and makes shlt alot more wll hate them.
Hey llkoolkeg!
No, it's something else...something in particular...something I have a bad feeling about.
I'm never really 100% about anything. I just like to ramble on because it keeps me re-evaluating. Beliefs, like concrete, harden quickly when they stop being stirred up.
I moved it. We don't "banish" threads to Political Debate, we MOVE them there. Not everyone is interested in seeing France/Iraq debate threads in the Lounge.Originally posted by Damn True
This thread is still here yet good news about the French http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47026 gets banished to the Political Debate forum.
That makes perfect sense.
Why did that thread get moved?
It didn't contain anything contentious, there was not heated debate. Simply sharing a positive development in on a subject that has been largely negative.
dennis miller is a ignorant fool
No, Dennis Miller is not French, .
yeah to bad the euro is getting so strongOriginally posted by Stellite
No, Dennis Miller is not French, .
But at least the US knows who it's friends are now. The ones who voted on it's side. Sad to see the others who didn't. I guess trade won't be as good as it was with our neighbors anymore, gee too bad.
Impressive post, rarely has the ugly American stereotype been expressed so eloquently. Do you really think trade between America and France et al will be affected by this disagreement? Even if it is, do you think your "neighbours" will be the only ones to be negatively affected. Come on now, repeat after me "France is not the enemy......France is not the enemy"Originally posted by Stellite
No, Dennis Miller is not French, .
But at least the US knows who it's friends are now. The ones who voted on it's side. Sad to see the others who didn't. I guess trade won't be as good as it was with our neighbors anymore, gee too bad.
France is not the enemy, France is not the enemy.
Bravo. You were going so well up to this point. Unfortunately you felt the need to once again lapse into the same kind of simple-minded rhetoric that characterised your previous posts. Try, if possible, to get past the idea that if I disagree with you I'm an opponent of freedom. If a person opposes the war (I'm not necessarily opposed to the war per se, just the reasoning implicit in it) it doesn't mean they support the Taliban or Saddam. A lot of people, but obviously not you, have a more sophisticated view of affairs but it's still not a difficult concept to understand. Here let me put it to you as simply as possible. Saddam bad, Taliban bad, Bush and co rash and ill-conceived.Originally posted by Stellite
I guess we all have that freedom to make comments, unlike the Iraqis under Saddam and the Afghans under the Taliban. Why do you not want these peoples to have freedom like you enjoy to speak your mind? or do you not wish them to speak their mind and show you how wrong you are.
I do not know if you are an opponent of freedom, however, it is plainly apparent to people that have lived without freedom that you must fight for it. No one really knows what is the best way to deal with these nuts, but last 12 years haven't worked. You think that freedom and peace has no price? Talk to oppressed people anywhere. Ask all the Kuwaitis if they think Saddam should be left alone, the answer is a resounding NO. Ask the Kurds of Iraq if Saddam should be left alone, the answer is a resounding no. Ask the Turkmen of Iraq if Saddam should be left alone, NO. Ask the Israeilis, NO again. Now Ask Germany, Yes, because they have an economic interest. Ask France, Yes, same answer as Germany. Russia, same answer as Germany and so on. The people that matter have no vote in the UN.
Well I thought I'd put it in words so simple that anybody who speaks English could understand but obviously not. I DON'T SUPPORT SADDAM. He must go, but the way the US and its allies are going about it is wrong. I'm looking at a bigger picture than just Iraq. Try this link, I think this explains my position (and probably many people's ideas) better than I can;
As for your last coment, there is no hate here. This is just a debate and I have no hate for anyone, and actually enjoy these discussions, even with some of the bumd comments we have all made. I read and understand your point of view. However, it is not the whole world against us in this. Lets see. Russia is against it, yet they have commited murder against the CHechens whom they call rebels. They have also attacked the Afghans in the past as we all know. China--they have no clue what human rights means. France--Socialist and for the most part Anti-American. Germany--Well past history says it all. These are the main countries against us and have enough power to sway much smaller countries against us in public opinion.
first of all my comment was directed to the ignorant remark that dennis miller made towards the fact that he sums up the islam religion in the last 500years and said it sucked,its like me summing up the american culture and saying that it sucked because of only a handfull of idiots that still believe in slavery(kkk)Originally posted by Stellite
France is not the enemy, France is not the enemy.
OF course they are not the enemy. Hey, I like French wine, French women, French Road Bikes, etc. Their cars suck, except for their cool little rally car. I have had French friends that are not from Paris, even these friends told me that the parisians are not friendly. It is their weak government that is rediculous.
I just have to make comments when I see the rediculous ignorant dribble comming out of RBX and JMAC. I do not see you make comments to what they state. It appears we have to sides here and your comment as well is on one side, and far from unbiased. So be it. I guess we all have that freedom to make comments, unlike the Iraqis under Saddam and the Afghans under the Taliban. Why do you not want these peoples to have freedom like you enjoy to speak your mind? or do you not wish them to speak their mind and show you how wrong you are.
You bash China for human rights, then use some of the countries on your list as support for US actions. There are a couple of real winners on your list.
Did you read the article in the link in my previous message? I think it answers the question quite well, but anyhow...
