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DaveW

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No 'mericans either...I think the guards were Kenyan or something, with little or no Engrish skilz...
Nope, Gurkha's (Nepalese).

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/2826406/US-embassy-like-Lord-Of-The-Flies


Nearly two-thirds of the embassy guards are Gurkhas from Nepal and northern India who don't speak adequate English, a situation that creates communications breakdowns, the group says. Pantomime is often used to convey orders and instructions.
One e-mail from a guard describes lurid conditions at Camp Sullivan, the guards' quarters a few miles from the embassy. The message described scenes of abuse including guards and supervisors urinating on people and "threats and intimidation from those leaders participating in this activity."

Photographs show guards and supervisors in various stages of nudity at parties that took place from the housing of other supervisors.

Multiple guards say these conditions have created a "climate of fear and coercion." Those who refuse to participate are often ridiculed, humiliated or even fired, they contended.
Take a soldier from a very very poor country drag them to another country give them what is to them a very high paying job, pretty easy to then intimidate them into doing what ever the supervisors want them to do IMO.
I'd bet the supervisor level guards were either all or majority American too (I can't see an American company guarding an American embassy putting non Americans into senior security positions, but that's only a guess).

Having spent a fair bit of time with Gurkha's back in the 90's I'd call that behavior totally out of character for the Gurkha culture, they are quite a straight laced (if a bit blood thirsty and violent) bunch of guys..... *shrugs* it does sound a lot like American frat boy culture though.
 

MikeD

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Nope, Gurkha's (Nepalese).

I'd bet the supervisor level guards were either all or majority American too (I can't see an American company guarding an American embassy putting non Americans into senior security positions, but that's only a guess).

Having spent a fair bit of time with Gurkha's back in the 90's I'd call that behavior totally out of character for the Gurkha culture, they are quite a straight laced (if a bit blood thirsty and violent) bunch of guys..... *shrugs* it does sound a lot like American frat boy culture though.
Heh, oddly enough, there are a lot of third-country nationals from Commonwealth countries in supervisory positions around the world. And this certainly doesn't sound like anything from a repressed bunch of prep-school boys with clipped accents, nosiree. Nor one that had any sort of interaction with the general south/central Asian area, nope. And certainly not anything to do with the British, who own ArmorGroup. HAS to be American influence, certainly.

"Ghurkas" today often aren't actually ethnic ghurkas, by the way--merely anyone hired to tote a gun who happens to originate anywhere in the India/Nepal region...
 

ohio

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"Ghurkas" today often aren't actually ethnic ghurkas, by the way--merely anyone hired to tote a gun who happens to originate anywhere in the India/Nepal region...
Real Gurkhas are pretty badass though. Like a modern Hindu Spartan. All the men carry (big honkin') knives and consider themselves (culturally, if not practically) warriors.

 

Pesqueeb

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Riding past the morgue.
Real Gurkhas are pretty badass though. Like a modern Hindu Spartan. All the men carry (big honkin') knives and consider themselves (culturally, if not practically) warriors.

I thought your supposed to draw blood every time you pull out a Gurkha knife. I hope you cut someone before you put that away.
 

MikeD

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But what do you have to do when you Google Image search for "kukri?" Perhaps smash someone over the head with your laptop before closing it?
 

MikeD

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Nope. Although I'm not sure it was a kukri, either.

I was thinking more scimitar/mameluke type thing, in fact.
 

KavuRider

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Nope. Although I'm not sure it was a kukri, either.

I was thinking more scimitar/mameluke type thing, in fact.
From wiki, so take it with a grain of salt, but...

Although a popular urban legend states that a Gurkha "never sheaths his blade without first drawing blood", the kukri is most commonly employed as a multi-use utility tool, rather like a machete. It can be used for building, clearing, chopping firewood, digging, cutting meat and vegetables, skinning and also for opening tins
 

ohio

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But what do you have to do when you Google Image search for "kukri?" Perhaps smash someone over the head with your laptop before closing it?
No guarantee of blood. I printed the picture out and gave my coworker a nasty paper cut.

I'm glad my host family didn't follow tradition. They used them for everything from cooking to fixing their bikes. Seeing as they were vegetarian, I would've been in sorry shape had they needed to draw blood every time one was unsheathed.
 

MikeD

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No guarantee of blood. I printed the picture out and gave my coworker a nasty paper cut.

I'm glad my host family didn't follow tradition. They used them for everything from cooking to fixing their bikes. Seeing as they were vegetarian, I would've been in sorry shape had they needed to draw blood every time one was unsheathed.
Did they make you an honorary Jhurka?
 

DaveW

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Nope. Although I'm not sure it was a kukri, either.

I was thinking more scimitar/mameluke type thing, in fact.


Yes that's a kukri, identical to the one I was given when I left Nepal by the ex Gurka regiment guys I'd been working with (guiding).

[trainspotting]
The small indent near the base of the blade is both a Hindu fertility symbol and is to stop blood running down the blade and making the handle slippery.
One of the smaller ones in the pic is a sharpener the other is just a general purpose sort of knife and they both tuck into the to of the sheath behind the main blade. :)

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MikeD

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Yes that's a kukri, identical to the one I was given when I left Nepal by the ex Gurka regiment guys I'd been working with (guiding).

[trainspotting]
The small indent near the base of the blade is both a Hindu fertility symbol and is to stop blood running down the blade and making the handle slippery.
One of the smaller ones in the pic is a sharpener the other is just a general purpose sort of knife and they both tuck into the to of the sheath behind the main blade. :)

[/trainspotting]

I know the PICTURE was a kukri. I mean the blade which according to legend (but obviously not actual practice) could not be sheathed without drawing blood.

Way to post on Sept 11 without a nod to the terrorist menace. Communist.