woo,that is what I keep thinking,it has no ending? They are digging a Hole for themselves,on behalf of all of us. They are getting Rich,but what do they do when no one is there to do the work that makes them money?
Am I makin sense to ya?
Avy
More real estate doom and gloom
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Am I makin sense to ya?
Avy
well heck, there goes my dreams of uprooting and moving to Jackson. 
What kind of snowblower do you have?well heck, there goes my dreams of uprooting and moving to Jackson.
Jackson, CA is available.well heck, there goes my dreams of uprooting and moving to Jackson.
well heck, there goes my dreams of uprooting and moving to Jackson.
Don’t laugh, that’s the emerging community for lifties and servers.
You should see the wait list.
commute is a bitch, though.
Rocky Vertone
Hey Jackson Hole Locals!!! I need your help. I am assuming most of you know that I own Full Circle Frameworks picture frame shop in town  and I have had this business for 20 years here in town. I am currently located at 65 Mercill Ave., and I have been there for the past three years. Some of you might not know that my building got sold last year. It was purchased by a company called Mogul Capital out of Utah. they have basically bought almost the whole block in that area and are building a big ass hotel and condos. (FUCKING LAME). I just found out last night that they got approval and permits are going to be issued possibly on Monday. This will result in the demolition of my building sooner than later.  Obviously I am not very thrilled about this and I am very concerned about the future of my business. Bottom line is that I am looking for a new space for Full Circle. Any leads would be greatly appreciated and please comment or message me with anything. I appreciate it!
Hey Jackson Hole Locals!!! I need your help. I am assuming most of you know that I own Full Circle Frameworks picture frame shop in town  and I have had this business for 20 years here in town. I am currently located at 65 Mercill Ave., and I have been there for the past three years. Some of you might not know that my building got sold last year. It was purchased by a company called Mogul Capital out of Utah. they have basically bought almost the whole block in that area and are building a big ass hotel and condos. (FUCKING LAME). I just found out last night that they got approval and permits are going to be issued possibly on Monday. This will result in the demolition of my building sooner than later.  Obviously I am not very thrilled about this and I am very concerned about the future of my business. Bottom line is that I am looking for a new space for Full Circle. Any leads would be greatly appreciated and please comment or message me with anything. I appreciate it!
Rocky is a great dude. Would be a hole here without him. He is also a really talented DJ, but I have never seen him do that.
A rocky hole in jackson's hole?
same shit happening here
the only discussion happening is the suffering of 'the service' when there's no business fronts anymore
There are no pictures of the yard because there is none. It's like 4 feet from the back of the house to the rear fence.
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59270 Lucy Ln, Saint Helens, OR 97051 | MLS #23357903 | Zillow
This 2122 square feet Single Family home has 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. It is located at 59270 Lucy Ln, Saint Helens, OR.
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i like this oneThere are no pictures of the yard because there is none. It's like 4 feet from the back of the house to the rear fence.
59270 Lucy Ln, Saint Helens, OR 97051 | MLS #23357903 | Zillow
This 2122 square feet Single Family home has 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. It is located at 59270 Lucy Ln, Saint Helens, OR.
In Montana, an Avalanche of Wealth Is Displacing Workers
The people who feed, clothe and clean up after the West’s rich newcomers can’t afford to live alongside them.
Shit is fucked up and bullshit...
here we're trying to figure out how to keep home prices skyrocketing while still getting the slave labor to show up for their minimum wage jobs.In Montana, an Avalanche of Wealth Is Displacing Workers
The people who feed, clothe and clean up after the West’s rich newcomers can’t afford to live alongside them.inthesetimes.com
Shit is fucked up and bullshit...
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See now it's not a housing problem it's just a transportation problem...
progress!
Incline Village association hosts workforce transportation roundtable discussion
INCLINE VILLAGE, Nev. — The Incline Village Crystal Bay Business Association recently gathered local agencies and business owners from the North Shore of Lake Tahoe to discuss solutions for workforce transportation in the basin. IVCBA...
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Can’t we just shut the service workers down at night, stack them, and then reanimate them in the morning?
Modern problems require modern solutions!
Modern problems require modern solutions!
like drone executed millionaire beheadings?
In San Diego my wrecking yards were struggling with high rents and environmental pressures which are expensive. Many complained about eBay and certifit cutting into sales. I always thought a local co-op storefront and have the yards/cars in Arizona was a good idea.
if only America had invested in passenger trains……This mess would be a different mess.
if only America had invested in passenger trains……This mess would be a different mess.
Teslas are doing that...
im a sucker for 12 foot ceilings
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How mountain towns work.
Just read the first sentence. Developers get agency approval/attention with a plan to build what everyone needs and wants. Gets agency approval and then changes development plans to 'lUxUrY' bullshit no one wants or needs, and then skirts local regulations that generally are a good thing.
every
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time
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Just read the first sentence. Developers get agency approval/attention with a plan to build what everyone needs and wants. Gets agency approval and then changes development plans to 'lUxUrY' bullshit no one wants or needs, and then skirts local regulations that generally are a good thing.
every
fucking
time
TRPA Committee votes to move forward with Tahoe Area Plan amendment in Incline Village
INCLINE VILLAGE, Nev.— A Tahoe Regional Planning Agency has decided to move forward with recommending the approval of an amendment to the Washoe Tahoe Area Plan to allow single family condominiums in area originally designated...
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So how are your exit plans looking?How mountain towns work.
Just read the first sentence. Developers get agency approval/attention with a plan to build what everyone needs and wants. Gets agency approval and then changes development plans to 'lUxUrY' bullshit no one wants or needs, and then skirts local regulations that generally are a good thing.
every
fucking
time
TRPA Committee votes to move forward with Tahoe Area Plan amendment in Incline Village
INCLINE VILLAGE, Nev.— A Tahoe Regional Planning Agency has decided to move forward with recommending the approval of an amendment to the Washoe Tahoe Area Plan to allow single family condominiums in area originally designated...
I assume these are being built out of combustible materials?How mountain towns work.
Just read the first sentence. Developers get agency approval/attention with a plan to build what everyone needs and wants. Gets agency approval and then changes development plans to 'lUxUrY' bullshit no one wants or needs, and then skirts local regulations that generally are a good thing.
every
fucking
time
TRPA Committee votes to move forward with Tahoe Area Plan amendment in Incline Village
INCLINE VILLAGE, Nev.— A Tahoe Regional Planning Agency has decided to move forward with recommending the approval of an amendment to the Washoe Tahoe Area Plan to allow single family condominiums in area originally designated...
that's fucked up.How mountain towns work.
Just read the first sentence. Developers get agency approval/attention with a plan to build what everyone needs and wants. Gets agency approval and then changes development plans to 'lUxUrY' bullshit no one wants or needs, and then skirts local regulations that generally are a good thing.
every
fucking
time
TRPA Committee votes to move forward with Tahoe Area Plan amendment in Incline Village
INCLINE VILLAGE, Nev.— A Tahoe Regional Planning Agency has decided to move forward with recommending the approval of an amendment to the Washoe Tahoe Area Plan to allow single family condominiums in area originally designated...
meanwhile Winter Park is actually Doing a Good(tm)
that's not a 'good thing' that's slave quartersthat's fucked up.
meanwhile Winter Park is actually Doing a Good(tm)
necessitated by the condition they helped foster
You're new in town but there used to be an actual community there. "Workforce housing" ain't that. That's just rich dumbfucks realizing they need someone to work for shit money to make their lattes.
I lived in WP/Fraser in ‘87, it was never really much of a community, TBH. It was the same, 11 of us living in a 5 bedroom house or whatever. I had a closet under the stairs, I was a high roller because I paid $175 a month.
Denver had just collapsed economically due to some oil related thing, so there were many, many empty weekend homes, and very few skiers. The ski train wasn’t running, and Berthoud was closed. It was idyllic in a way. But lots of closed storefronts.
Here is the crazy thing. I worked a few days a week as a housekeeper, and we got paid $15-18 an hour…almost thirty years ago. It’s what, $20-25 an hour now?
Denver had just collapsed economically due to some oil related thing, so there were many, many empty weekend homes, and very few skiers. The ski train wasn’t running, and Berthoud was closed. It was idyllic in a way. But lots of closed storefronts.
Here is the crazy thing. I worked a few days a week as a housekeeper, and we got paid $15-18 an hour…almost thirty years ago. It’s what, $20-25 an hour now?
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The Gulag.
Honestly man. That's complete horseshit. That dumbass mindset is nothing more than justifying gentrification while maintaining the services you depend on as a quite privelidged aMeRiCaN.
You're not stupid. That's not "affordable housing" that's exactly what I said it is, slave quarters. This country needs a housing market that's not up wall street's ass. That's not 'affordable housing' that's making sure your valet is there to park your fucking tesla. This country needs community. Not a place to sleep so someone can wax your fucking skis, while you get to cleanse your conscience that over the complete takeover of an entire valley for let's just say, your class of visitor to maintain the caliber of service folk you've come to expect.
In a press release from another era that's just "employee housing". Go back a little further and there's a mention of scrip as payment. You fall in love with modern dialectic because it eases your conscience. It's the same old shit it's always been.
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I mean hey the important part for shareholders is that winter park continue to exist on shit wages amirite?
You're focusing on the wrong end.
Again.
You're talking about a job that can literally cause a few hundred deaths at a time. With seasonal turnover because of the payscale. God forbid we create an experienced expert who gives a shit about their job and gets paid for that expertise.
I've worked at a ski area. You have no idea.
You don't need to "build" anything. Rent your house up there year round to a local. Until then you're just performing. You don't actually care about this. You don't give a flying fuck as long as you can keep skiing with a clear conscience.
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Nah toshi's ilk goes with the boomers when they get run over on their ebikes by some nutjob in an f250 rolling coal because godking trump and sexual frustration.
In many ways this country has existed on trickle down slavery. It's collapsing. And we're running out of new labor forces to exploit. I'm not entirely sure where to go but massive billionaire CEO wealth falling by the wayside to make way for reasonable pay is a start. But I sure as fuck will not be supporting some shitty vail company town just because some dumbass feels better about his season pass by calling it 'affordable housing.'
The litmus test: If you ever read a press release by a publicly traded multi-million dollar corporation that makes you feel better about continuing to do the same shit you've done for 20 years, you're probably a gullible idiot. Or in other terms "our target demographic clientele"
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The simple answer to what @Toshi is asking and @kidwoo is trying to express is a massive reduction in inequality.
1) Tax the rich, and corporations, a LOT more and get rid of all the ridiculous bloat, exceptions and prejudices of your fucked up tax code.
2) Stop wasting half your tax take on your ridiculous amoral military, and OMG stop subsiding fossil fuels.
3) Introduce minimum wages that both are living wages and track inflation.
4) Stop, as a society, believing the childish, ridiculous idea that the needs of the individual have primacy over society as a whole. Ayn Rand wasn’t right, she was a fucking crazy lady.
1) Tax the rich, and corporations, a LOT more and get rid of all the ridiculous bloat, exceptions and prejudices of your fucked up tax code.
2) Stop wasting half your tax take on your ridiculous amoral military, and OMG stop subsiding fossil fuels.
3) Introduce minimum wages that both are living wages and track inflation.
4) Stop, as a society, believing the childish, ridiculous idea that the needs of the individual have primacy over society as a whole. Ayn Rand wasn’t right, she was a fucking crazy lady.
Kinda looks like the projects are back from here.