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jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
43,073
15,163
Portland, OR
When I first moved here way back in '93, Hillsboro was cow fields, a tiny air port, and Intel. Tech grew like crazy and filled out the cow fields, but the idea a house average is $700k is nutty. Beaverton has been out of the question for a while because the traffic is awful, but I thought Hillsboro and Forest Grove were still options. I was wrong.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
67,815
14,159
In a van.... down by the river

rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
24,673
12,473
In the cleavage of the Tetons
Oh, the incredible misinformation regarding the feasibility of a tunnel. Three factors: we are in an active subduction zone, next to one of the more seismically active areas in the country due to volcanic forces deep underground, and the soil/dirt is some of the worst, unconsolidated garbage, the tunnel would likely fail repeatedly, in multiple locations, every year.
Not only that, it would like cost billions upon billions, and billions more in maintenance.
As well as the fact that periodically Moose and Bear would need to be shooed out of there.

This has been studied extensively, and not one engineering group anywhere would sign off on it being remotely a decent idea.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,139
10,685
AK
Really fun to watch was them repairing that highway before getting the soil samples tested and analyzed. There were more than a couple geologists/engineers that were asking "WTF are you doing?" with that highway repair, as in super sketch.
 

rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
24,673
12,473
In the cleavage of the Tetons
Really fun to watch was them repairing that highway before getting the soil samples tested and analyzed. There were more than a couple geologists/engineers that were asking "WTF are you doing?" with that highway repair, as in super sketch.
That was irrelevant for the immediate need, which was to reopen the pass not tomorrow, but yesterday. The real fix is already being planned, this fix is more like the way an army builds a temporary bridge. It isn’t a repair, it’s a life-line. In the truest sense: 30-40% of our local hospital and first responder workers live in Teton Valley.
its basically going to have monitoring 24-7.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
55,993
22,030
Sleazattle
Oh, the incredible misinformation regarding the feasibility of a tunnel. Three factors: we are in an active subduction zone, next to one of the more seismically active areas in the country due to volcanic forces deep underground, and the soil/dirt is some of the worst, unconsolidated garbage, the tunnel would likely fail repeatedly, in multiple locations, every year.
Not only that, it would like cost billions upon billions, and billions more in maintenance.
As well as the fact that periodically Moose and Bear would need to be shooed out of there.

This has been studied extensively, and not one engineering group anywhere would sign off on it being remotely a decent idea.

People just need to pull on their bootstraps and charter jets.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
55,993
22,030
Sleazattle
I unfortunately saw my first POStruck today. Damn those things look even dumber when you see someone has bought one of them.
They look even dumber when you have seen several of them and certain aspects like the huge gap between the bumper and the rest of the truck and the unavoidably awkward windshield wiper. Clearly designed by a dipshit in a board room.
 

rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
24,673
12,473
In the cleavage of the Tetons
$260m is loose change to @rideit 's neighbours.
lol, and whatever was 260mm in 2013 is a billion now.
That tunnel would end up costing north of $750 Million, and would require millions annually in maintenance and prevention of collapse. The highest traffic estimate that the pass, even with a tunnel (the one being discussed there doesn’t even bypass where the highway just failed, or where the mudslide was!) could support is about 25,000 cars a day, from what I have read. It’s already bumper to bumper from Wilson to town in the rush hour times.
There is just absolutely no way anyone would finance that. The rest of Wyoming doesn’t give a shit about our worker problems, and Idaho would just shrug and say “sucks for you, heathens”.