[Changleen]

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1118-14.htm

BERKELEY, CA -- November 18 -- Today the University of California's Berkeley Quantitative Methods Research Team released a statistical study - the sole method available to monitor the accuracy of e- voting - reporting irregularities associated with electronic voting machines may have awarded 130,000-260,000 or more excess votes to President George W. Bush in Florida in the 2004 presidential election. The study shows an unexplained discrepancy between votes for President Bush in counties where electronic voting machines were used versus counties using traditional voting methods - what the team says can be deemed a "smoke alarm." Discrepancies this large or larger rarely arise by chance - the probability is less than 0.1 percent. The research team formally disclosed results of the study at a press conference today at the UC Berkeley Survey Research Center, where they called on Florida voting officials to investigate.

The other thing that came out of the election results was the idea that Exit poles had 'finally been discredited'. This always seemed wierd to me. In the past in many many countries in thousands of elections, even very tight ones, exit poles have painted a very accurate picture of the actual results.

Suddenly after this election, the media presents this idea that exit poles cannot be trusted, based on the fact the election results did not tally with the exit poles. People seem to accept this idea without questioning (or even bringing up) the massive pile of historical evidence. Articles such as this would go a long way towards describing the reasons for this sudden failure of an age old and formerly highly reliable methodology.

Prizes for the first people to claim "It doesn't matter - Bush won, get over it."

 

[Dirty]

do you actually read commondreams.org on a regular basis?

 

[BurlyShirley]

do you actually read commondreams.org on a regular basis?

he wanks off to it actually.

 

[Changleen]

do you actually read commondreams.org on a regular basis?

It's not in my 'favourites' list or anything, but I have been known to visit it in the past. My normal first port of call is Google News.

 

[Changleen]

he wanks off to it actually.

Dude, your recent posts have been so weak. You should take a vacation. You're no fun anymore.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Dude, your recent posts have been so weak. You should take a vacation. You're no fun anymore.

No dude. Your posts have just become the Anti-N8 is all. Crap from crap websites. Just get off it already. Its not even interesting when it sucks this bad.

 

[fluff]

No dude. Your posts have just become the Anti-N8 is all. Crap from crap websites. Just get off it already. Its not even interesting when it sucks this bad.

The thing is Shirl, you're becoming the Anti-Changleen. If you could actually be bothered to look further into this matter, rather than attacking it as anti-Bush, or attacking the source you would find there is some substance to it.

A scientific approach has been taken to investigate why the exit polls were so far off in counties where Bush did several hundred percent better than anticipated whilst Kerry did several hundred percent worse. These expectations not only being derived from the normally highly accurate exit polls but also from historical voting data.

I saw this from a very reputable source a few days ago but I didn't post it because the reaction from people like you is so predictable.

You should be concerned but because you're happy with the result you think everything is fine and dandy, however the US voting systems do seem either badly run, fundamentally flawed or deliberately manipulated.

Here's a link that's worth a read before you go frothing about me being a Bush-hater. After all, it's not as if I'm saying Kerry won...

 

[Changleen]

Very interesting link, Fluff. It is highly suspect that the discrimination is basically a one way street for the Repubs, and with the most extreme deviations nearly all in Diebold counties.

 

[Damn True]

Very interesting link, Fluff. It is highly suspect that the discrimination is basically a one way street for the Repubs, and with the most extreme deviations nearly all in Diebold counties.

Attention K-mart shoppers. There is a blue light special on tin-foil hats on aisle three.

 

[Changleen]

Attention K-mart shoppers. There is a blue light special on tin-foil hats on aisle three.

So several counties with 200-300% 'last minute swings' to GW are not in the least bit suspect to you? What about a county with 75% registered democrat voters actually going to GW 3 to 1?

 

[Damn True]

Why is the left not investigating the polls in the states where Kerry won?

 

[Changleen]

It's not really 'the left' investigating, UC Berkeley kinda started all this (yes, I know...) but anyway if you look around you'll see most states have some sort of disection going on. Obviously Florida and Ohio are the most interesting though.