[BurlyShirley]

Originally posted by Just Lookin'...

but maybe, just maybe, reducing world poverty with say, education and industry, might make life for some of these enemies too valuable to just 'throw away' in a suicide bombing or similar destructive behavior.

like i said earlier, it's just an opinion.

I think that the religion is so strong in that culture that you're always going to have some kind of fanaticism. I mean, all religions do, but arent you bound by islam to detest all non muslims? I can think of numerous threads on RM (which is all Im going off of here) where that seemed to be the case. Industry might help the little guy, but isnt it the wealthy ones that are the head terrorists right now, anyway? Your opinion seems well intentioned, but it doesnt fix the crux of the problem.

...and really, if i HONESTLY BELIEVED that I'd get 72 virgins for blowing myself up...I might do it too.

 

[Jeremy R]

Yep, its not religion, politics, etc... fault.
The fault lies in the fact that we human beings.
And human beings kill other human beings.
They always have and they always will.
Rich, poor, black, white, smart, dumb, they all kill one another.
All from different religious, ethnic, and political backgrounds.
You can blame this and that all day long.
But violence is something that the whole human race has hardwired into them.
Sometimes it can be avoided or made less severe by things like education and lowering poverty levels etc....
But it will NEVER be eliminated.
And now technology has made it us way better at it.
Typing this is depressing.
I am going for a ride.

 

[sshappy]

Originally posted by $tinkle
so what you're saying is, you're all out of ammo?

Is this just a propaganda battle to you? You say you desire to see the truth but all your posts are one-sided and often inflammatory.

Whether you can provide more propaganda to support your views than someone else can to support the counterpoint does not prove that you are right. Given that the information age and culture is overwhelmingly dominated by the western world and predominantly the US you will find more pro-western anti-muslim propaganda to support the 'Islam is evil' position. Beyond demonstrating the power of propaganda it proves nothing.

Of course, if you're trolling then the truth becomes secondary.

 

[$tinkle]

Originally posted by sshappy
Whether you can provide more propaganda to support your views than someone else can to support the counterpoint does not prove that you are right. Given that the information age and culture is overwhelmingly dominated by the western world and predominantly the US you will find more pro-western anti-muslim propaganda

i believe you're blurring the lines between fact & propaganda. The number of arizona protesters, the number convicted of terrorism, france having a rough time in handling their growing muslim population who demand fair representation & basic human rights, and the silent arab street are absolutely verifiable. How unfortunate you dismiss that which is unpleasant as propaganda.

Originally posted by sshappy
...to support the 'Islam is evil' position.

this is simply reductio ad absurdum - it's the terrorists who are evil, for 2 primary reasons: they kill non-combatants & they have hijacked islam (pun very much intended)