Macko's thread got me thinking about brakes. I've run Hayes on a few bikes and have been happy, but wanna try something else on my new urban hardtail build. I've narrowed it to Hope Mono Minis or Juicy Fives. Modulation would be a nice feature, but if they're loud that will suck.
My Brake Thread
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I like Juicys, but never rode Hopes. I didn't love Maguras. I do have some Deore hydros on the urban bike that are pretty decent. I can't only imagine that the 4 pot XTs rock.
Avid mechs are the bomb ass diggity. Got them on my DH bike, my urban bike, and my singlespeed. One set is on its 3rd bike. They are right up there with King headsets in the "parts I don't need to worry about" category.
If you don't want loud brakes, stay far far away from Hopes. My friend had them, yes, they were correctly set up, and he tried different pads, and even still, those things were awful. You could hear him a mile away.
Use the Fred Flintstone method
Urban bike = Avid Mechs all the way
I have the seven's on both bikes, and I really like them.stinkyboy said:
They are super powerful which is about the only thing I care about.
However, mine are loud.
I'm fully Avid- I have 7's on the squishy bike, mechs on the single speed and Ultimates on the hard tail. All work very well.
another vote for avid mechs, esp for the kind of bike you are using them for.
Formula..... Light powerfull and good modulation
My hopes feel great and stop great, but I have to wear friggin earplugs if they are even a little bit dirty.
Next brakes will either be avid mechs or maguras.
Next brakes will either be avid mechs or maguras.
Hopes (Minis, M4s, Mono M4s, and Mono Minis) have treated me well.
When properly set up, they aren't noisy at all.
When properly set up, they aren't noisy at all.
care to elaborate?justsomeguy said:
For one you have to get the disc tabs faced. That will help to eliminate some of the squeel.jacksonpt said:
One thing that I would recommend if you go the Avid Mechican route is to get Shimano levers. In my experience Shimano levers feel a lot better than Avid ones do.
Magura Louise, Hayes9s/ mags or Avid mechs. That is the only true path to enlightenment.
I run EL Caminos. They are PERFECT, however, I wouldnt want to destroy them urban riding......this is why I recommend avid mechs...cheap but good. Not out too much coin if you destroy one on a curb.maxyedor said:
Install per manufacturer's specs.jacksonpt said:
Properly bed new pads. I use stock pads.
Ride.
I had one set of fronts that developed a slight squeal after months of riding. A touch of automotive anti-squeal paste on the pad/piston interface kill the squeal.
Edit: I've never had to have any disc tabs faced on the five frames that I've used Hopes on.
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justsomeguy said:
Good advice on the set up and anti-squeal, but make sure it is very moderate. I just rebuilt some mechs that some dillweed covered in that crap.
Stinky - I have 5s and 7s both. I like the 5s the best. I put the 7s on Julie's bike, as the levers are a little more adjustable.
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My front has a slight squeel as well... I will use you advice.
Thx!
Why play games.......Buy Hope!!!!
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I wonder what would happen if we used disc brake quiet on you.N8 said:
Not sure what you'll be up to but if you like bar spins and whips, Avid Mechs with a gyro/potts mod is a pretty hot set-up.
'Cause he knows how to set them up properly?stinkyboy said:
Well yeah...but what is "urban" if not street BMX with 26" wheels?bigdonut said:What is this? Something similar to bmx bike setups?
bigdonut said:What is this? Something similar to bmx bike setups?
Check the steerer tube routing. This was even when I had hydros. I've got cable dics on there now just so I can remove the fork or stem without having to rebleed.
Pretty common these days.
^^^Yeeeehaaww! Showing my age but I call the front cable through the stem a "Potts mod," after Steve (or was it Mike?) Potts who did it for Mike Buff and some other early freestylers by drilling out their stem bolts. Seen a bunch of people running gyros for the rear cable too...there have even been some weird proto hydraulic gyros around as well.
OGRipper said:
huh???????
Yep. I remember one used part of the frame like a resevoir and another looked like the old ACS rotors...no I don't have any pics but they are probably out there somewhere.kidwoo said:
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That's always my recommendation. But picking between the hopes and the Avids, I would try the Avids. I have never tried either and would have to base my decision on the fact that I have talked to people who do have Avids and they all love them, Hopes are pricey (for me anyway) and the only ones I have experience with (other people riding in a group) were loud. Sorry I can't give some solid info based on experience.
Since the supply of XT 4 pots is dwindling I think I am going to stop recommending them and buy them all for myself. At least until Shimano starts making them again.