[iksmudge]

Couldn't agree more.
For me, the best way to work out cockpit size is to use 3 key measurements:
(1) bb height = where your feet are
(2) front wheel height + handle bar height = where your hands are.
You can then micro adjust this with front spacers and different stems.
So, for example, my Faction and Model C both have a 8.75" handle bar and both have exactly the same cockpit size in terms of feet to hands height.
Faction bb = 11.8, wheel size =22"
Model C bb = 13.76, wheel size = 24"

 

[TJ from Oz]

Nice build cdavis
Just finished my BubbleGum Blue and thought I would post it up.
Love the old school chrome and reckon it works great with the blue.
Took it for the first ride today at my SP, loved it great ride and fantastic geo.
the 8" Slams work great too.

 

[sealclubber]

heck yeah +1 to the blue crew. really diggin the chrome front end

 

[oldtricks]

Nice build cdavis
Just finished my BubbleGum Blue and thought I would post it up.
Love the old school chrome and reckon it works great with the blue.
Took it for the first ride today at my SP, loved it great ride and fantastic geo.
the 8" Slams work great too.

That looks so sweet. I always loved landing gear forks. I might go that route if I build a 24. How'd you think they will hold up jumping? Also I read somewhere else there might be some issues with pegs and grinds but I can't see the problem myself. Damn. That build is nice.

 

[Paulyd]

Does anyone know if Liquid ever plans on releasing a complete?

would be cool.

 

[cdavis]

Nice build cdavis
Just finished my BubbleGum Blue and thought I would post it up.
Love the old school chrome and reckon it works great with the blue.
Took it for the first ride today at my SP, loved it great ride and fantastic geo.
the 8" Slams work great too.

Thats a sweet ride you got there. Chrome front ends are awesome.

 

[cmc]

im 6'7" and really like 8" bars. will have to try a setup similar to 10" though

by the way... i decided the 10"s are too tall for serious riding / trails (nice for street cruising) ....

these look sick!

Odyssey Gary Young handlebar

$67.95

8.66" rise, 28" width, 12 degree backsweep, 4 degree upsweep, 1 lb 15.5 oz; lightweight 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing is lifetime guaranteed
http://www.empirebmx.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6766

 

[pnj]

WCH was (very) cool enough to loan my his prototype frame.

Did you guys have issues setting up your brakes? I had to add a bunch of washer to get the pad to hit the rim before the arms hit the seat tube.

That seat looks lame but it sure feels great on my ass.

 

[Cru Jones]

Did you guys have issues setting up your brakes? I had to add a bunch of washer to get the pad to hit the rim before the arms hit the seat tube.

That was an issue on the prototypes. For the production frame, we steepened the seatpost angle by 1/2 a degree and moved the brake mounts down a couple mm. I haven't heard of anybody having a problem on the new frames, although there may be certain brake/pad combinations that would require a few more spacers.

Issues like this are why you get prototypes!

 

[cmc]

. . . I haven't heard of anybody having a problem on the new frames, although there may be certain brake/pad combinations that would require a few more spacers.

yep. zero problems on mine. my We The People "Salt" brand brakes went on perfect. the brake pads are close to the center of the slots too, so it's not like you have to do any weird angling with the pads to make it work.

 

[WestCoastHucker]

yeah. when i switched parts from the proto to a production frame, i had to remove the spacers i had to put on for the proto frame...

 

[pnj]

Just got back from the dirt piles. STOOOOKKEEDD!!!
Seriously laughing in the air off every lip. Strait up clowning.

 

[TJ from Oz]

No probs on my build, just the standard issue with u brakes and having to cut down the brake mount bolts.other than that the Evo 2s work great.

 

[TJ from Oz]

That looks so sweet. I always loved landing gear forks. I might go that route if I build a 24. How'd you think they will hold up jumping? Also I read somewhere else there might be some issues with pegs and grinds but I can't see the problem myself. Damn. That build is nice.

No problems so far, my experience with landing gear is that they are more than fine with jumping and as for pegs? yet to try any on a set. can anyone confirm peg issues with the Landing gears?

 

[cdavis]

Only brake issue on mine is my fat aitken in the back hitting my brake arms. Solution was dont slam the wheel.

 

[oldtricks]

No problems so far, my experience with landing gear is that they are more than fine with jumping and as for pegs? yet to try any on a set. can anyone confirm peg issues with the Landing gears?

Only what this dude says here http://www.vitalbmx.com/product/guide/Forks,8/SE/Landing-Gear-Forks,1202
The first review. I think he is talking about how the fork legs continues down a little after the axle slot.

 

[Paulyd]

anyone want to trade their Liquid for my 08 Suburban???


yeah, didn't think so. damn.

 

[pnj]

With this stem, a giant spacer and the Liquid bars my grips sit at 38.25 inches. With the stem inverted, no spacer and 8 inch slams, the bars sit at 38 3/8. Not sure why but the bike seems to ride better with the slams.

No idea why my girlfriends camera takes ****ty pics either....

 

[cmc]

With this stem, a giant spacer and the Liquid bars my grips sit at 38.25 inches. With the stem inverted, no spacer and 8 inch slams, the bars sit at 38 3/8. Not sure why but the bike seems to ride better with the slams.

No idea why my girlfriends camera takes ****ty pics either....

Pic with the Slams !

 

[pnj]

You've seen it.. They were on the prototype.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3639768&postcount=88

 

[Paulyd]

Just got a 20 again, and it feels so good. Now you guys come here and say Liquids are even better? Lies. Someone trade me so I can see if it's true.

 

[TJ from Oz]

Nice looking set in the background png!
What ratio are you guys running on your 24s? I have 28/12 and seems ok but a little light for cruising wondering if I should drop to 11?
ps Pauly......a 20? whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOL

 

[sealclubber]

im riding 23:10

probably gonna drop to 9 in the rear, gotta go fasterrrr

 

[Paulyd]

Traded my 26" for a 20. 20s are the **** though. only 26er i'm getting now is an xc bike LOL. Hardcore stuff.

 

[cdavis]

Nice looking set in the background png!
What ratio are you guys running on your 24s? I have 28/12 and seems ok but a little light for cruising wondering if I should drop to 11?
ps Pauly......a 20? whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOL

24 - 10, its magical.

 

[sealclubber]

only until you hear how many balls i haul with 23:9

that extra 3.77777 inches turns my new ratio into an orgasm

but hey, no hate. we got the sexiest frames ever

 

[sittingduck]

25/10. It's just a little lighter than I've been used to. Ran 25/11 on 26" wheels.
Works out pretty well though, gave me a good chainstay length with no halflink.

 

[pnj]

25/10 also.

 

[TJ from Oz]

24 - 10, its magical.

went 28-11 and the gear feels great ratio is near the 24-10 at 2.54
but seems to feel just right at the park.

 

[sealclubber]

new taller gear ratio is tits.

and uh-oh, new frame company guerra is copying liquids blue

 

[Cru Jones]

Haha. Actually... we got the color from WTP. Not sure if they were the first, though...

 

[sealclubber]

hmm, any way to confirm its the same color? just noticed they also have 8x28 bars that would look tits on my liquid

http://www.veinbmx.com/Parts/Handlebars/Amber-Veil-Bars

 

[iksmudge]

only until you hear how many balls i haul with 23:9

that extra 3.77777 inches turns my new ratio into an orgasm

but hey, no hate. we got the sexiest frames ever

I run 26:10 on my model C and have gone down 2 waist sizes!

 

[Cru Jones]

hmm, any way to confirm its the same color? just noticed they also have 8x28 bars that would look tits on my liquid

http://www.veinbmx.com/Parts/Handlebars/Amber-Veil-Bars

Looks the same. I will PM you the paint code and you might be able to check that with the company to see if it's the same.

 

[WestCoastHucker]

Looks the same. I will PM you the paint code and you might be able to check that with the company to see if it's the same.

yeah, that color looks identical...

 

[cmc]

Traded the S&M Perfect 10's for some raw Standard Bykes 9"s (3 degree upsweep). eeees niiiice

 

[24slayer]

im about 5 foot 10 inches would a 22 tt liquid frame be to long and have any of you guys come from 26 dj bike and perfer this.I ride a 26 with rigids and all bmx parts I would like to try a 24 bmx because of the more aggressive geo and smaller wheels

 

[sittingduck]

im about 5 foot 10 inches would a 22 tt liquid frame be to long and have any of you guys come from 26 dj bike and perfer this.I ride a 26 with rigids and all bmx parts I would like to try a 24 bmx because of the more aggressive geo and smaller wheels

Personal preference... I like longer frames, some people like shorter frames.
Get a Liquid, do it NOW. You'll be glad you did.

 

[cmc]

im about 5 foot 10 inches would a 22 tt liquid frame be to long and have any of you guys come from 26 dj bike and perfer this.I ride a 26 with rigids and all bmx parts I would like to try a 24 bmx because of the more aggressive geo and smaller wheels

Which 26" do you ride ?
I think the 22" Liquid would be ideal for your height.

 

[pnj]

I'm 5.7 or 5.8 and ride a 22.25. My front foot drags the tire sometimes when doing X-ups. I wouldn't want to ride anything shorter. This frame rules.