The frames just deadens the feel of a Super Six. Not as smooth as something like a Tarmac, but ridiculously stiff. Regardless, this is the best 'grand tour' frame available. in my opinion. between the BB30, weight, stiffness, it rarely gets better than this in a production frame. My riding partner: Love 'em. The Gore cables are pretty much crap, in my opinion. And the ferrules creak like little bitches. We've already had 3 complaints about the cables at the shop. We've sold 4 or 5 Red groups. Replaced with standard cables and housing and all is well. FSA stem, again, 90mm. The only part that wasn't on my System Six. Edge tubies rolling good still. Swiss Stop pads really do perform better. Very impressed with the pads.