[Sandwich]

I might go get a pair.

45NRTH Ragnarok BOA Cycling Boot

Ragnarök BOA® boots are perfect for the hard-to-predict weather of late fall and early spring. Built to block cold and moisture, these lightweight cycling boots feature a 25ºF+ (-4ºC+) comfort...

www.freewheelbike.com

Great deal, I think they have my size too. Shipping is $21 :barf:

I realized i have some "too-big" SPD shoes in the garage I was going to toss. Those might work great with extra thick wool socks and the shoe covers I already have. Will test and report back.

 

[4xBoy]

Sad part, they are not making anything at the price for shipping.

They have the tall version for $73.50


Shipping prices are to damn high!

 

[Sandwich]

Sad part, they are not making anything at the price for shipping.

They have the tall version for $73.50


Shipping prices are to damn high!

oh, I understand. Companies that offer free shipping get eaten by shipping fees, but as a consumer far away, I don't have an option. goes up to $100 when your order goes over $100, which is double insano!

 

[Sandwich]

OK, I found my old size 46 shimano shoes. Tempted to order new insoles to try this out. Aerogel or wool? Put original insole on top or leave as is?

 

[Jm_]

that photo is confusing me

did you do a JCPenney photo studio style double exposure to get that translucent Superfeet insole visible

That's the wolfgar boot with the liners pulled, but example of how to "build up" a boot to make it smaller. It also increases the distance from the foot to the cleat (heat sink), so it's a win-win.

 

[Jm_]

OK, I found my old size 46 shimano shoes. Tempted to order new insoles to try this out. Aerogel or wool? Put original insole on top or leave as is?

The aerogel shit is like half a micron thin or whatever. If it was like half an inch thick or something I might give two shits about it, otherwise it just seems to be a gimmick. Most insoles are not heat-conducting and the more distance you get from the foot to the pedal cleat is the main thing IME. Which is significantly limited by how big the shoe is of course. Winter shoes/boots that have thin insoles that put the foot close to the cleat need to be throw back in the face of the manufacturer. That's a primary means of losing heat IMO, because metal cleat attaches to metal pedal, makes giant heatsink.

 

[Sandwich]

The aerogel shit is like half a micron thin or whatever. If it was like half an inch thick or something I might give two shits about it, otherwise it just seems to be a gimmick. Most insoles are not heat-conducting and the more distance you get from the foot to the pedal cleat is the main thing IME. Which is significantly limited by how big the shoe is of course. Winter shoes/boots that have thin insoles that put the foot close to the cleat need to be throw back in the face of the manufacturer. That's a primary means of losing heat IMO, because metal cleat attaches to metal pedal, makes giant heatsink.

These are the ones I was looking at: https://a.co/d/4hRlAoO

These have aluminum on the bottom, might be an effective insulator with wool or whatever on top: https://a.co/d/fTp3xnS

 

[Jm_]

These are the ones I was looking at: https://a.co/d/4hRlAoO

These have aluminum on the bottom, might be an effective insulator with wool or whatever on top: https://a.co/d/fTp3xnS

This screams bullshit IMO

"Made with Aerogel infused insulation to keep heat in and cold out"

It's not a layer of aerogel, it's like spraying some graphene in there or some nanotube bullshit.

And aluminum? That's like not only metal, but like the worst possible metal for heat loss.

Go to a store that does running shoes, like an actual running shoe store, they'll have a ton of different size and shape insoles you can try.

I have lamb skin insoles in my wolfhammers (wait, what?) and I don't feel they are particularly warm or helpful. Some people swear by them, but I don't see a significant difference. But you can really play around with insoles at a running store and get something that seamlessly integrates like in my picture before. Those will at least be made of foam that is relatively insulating and non-conductive.

 

[Sandwich]

Trying a few things and making a little progress. I have these old shimano entry level MTB shoes which I used for years then moved onto the spin bike when I upgraded. I took the insoles out and lined the bottom with insulation tape- ie actual duct tape. Below that, I cut out some thin fiberglass insulation (pipe wrap) in the shape of the footbed. Slapped everything back together and inserted it into the shoe, while wearing thicker than normal wool socks (hiking style, rather than ski socks). I was doing great until I got my flat and stood still for 30 minutes.

 

[4xBoy]

Ragnorak tall, maybe rag lo. As much as I hate this shop, I'm not a total douche so I might find my size and check out the tall boot and leave it at that.

I need to be able to maintain ankle flexibility- I think that's less important on a mountain bike but on the road I'm pedalling constantly and need to make sure whatever I end up with functions like a shoe, not a boot. If I can't find something that allows me to pedal comfortably, I guess I'll stop going out!

I bought my wife the ragnorak tall yesterday for Xmas.

Might consider getting myself a pair.