This isn't the winter, and your 3 day pass has nothing to do with a race entry.I am so sick of you sissys complaining about lift ticket prices. Check out a 3 day pass at Vail for the winter.
Bromont has those fancy 3 bikes per chair whistler racks as well. Bromont is the venue with the $42 reg. people are talking about.Well they are trying to run a business. Those fancy dedicated bike racks (a la whizzler) didn't just show up by themselves. Yes they could've done a better job communicating the lift costs. If you don't think its worth it, come find me and I'll buy you a beer.
Oh and my real name is Full Trucker and you can find me on a sweet Yeti 303-R, herding cats in the Yeti RPM trailer.
You're the guy they should be paying to be there then right?I'm pretty sure it is fair to say I have been to a lot more races at a lot more venues than the majority of people on RM. I've seen the cost differences.
Pfffffft nice.Oh and my real name is Full Trucker and you can find me on a sweet Yeti 303-R, herding cats in the Yeti RPM trailer.
Having put on a handful of races, it's tough to not lose you a$$. I can see people questioning where all the dinero goes when you have $60 entry with 300 racers. There are some fixed expenses that add up to more than half of that sum, and a lot of variables. The fixed expenses are tough because it costs the same whether you have 100 people show up or 350. If 100 you miss a house payment or two, if 350 you'll survive to put on the next one. Additionally, people don't think about the couple weeks off of work, the couple months of networking time, organizing sponsorship, cell bills, time away from your wife and kids, and personal liability. It's fun and very satisfying to put on a race, but it is still work and if you (as a promoter) aren't rewarded (or at least reimbursed) to some degree, you'll find the race fading away eventually. Lastly, compare the entry fees with other sports with comparable logistics, and we (as dh'ers) are still getting value I believe.Welcome to America with outrageous insurance costs to cover. I cannot fault the promoter for charging enough money to try and break even. At the same time I made the choice to also stop racing partly because of the costs.
Honestly Mountain bikers need to stop being such whiny cheap asses. I have never met a group of people that complain so much about spending money. I do not care if the rest of the world does it another way. It will not stop the constant bitching from mountain bikers about how much something costs.
I am so sick of you sissys complaining about lift ticket prices. Check out a 3 day pass at Vail for the winter.
Regardless of the season, a ski lift still costs X amount of dollars to operate, you need to pay Y amount of dollars for the staff required to operate it, and Z amount of dollars for maintenance. The resort owners don't care if your riding a bike, a set of skis, or a snowboard, it costs money to get people up a mountain on a chair. If anything its more expensive to get bikers up as the lifts need to be retro-fitted to do so (money for the rack/hook/apparatus and labor to install it).This isn't the winter, and your 3 day pass has nothing to do with a race entry.
Very well said! There are so many hidden costs in running an event and SolVista should be applauded for their efforts and attempts to put on a successful event. Based on their trailwork alone it is apparent that they have great intentions and truly want to have an event that people remember. It is refreshing to see other promoters making forward progress despite the turmoil in US racing.Having put on a handful of races, it's tough to not lose you a$$. I can see people questioning where all the dinero goes when you have $60 entry with 300 racers. There are some fixed expenses that add up to more than half of that sum, and a lot of variables. The fixed expenses are tough because it costs the same whether you have 100 people show up or 350. If 100 you miss a house payment or two, if 350 you'll survive to put on the next one. Additionally, people don't think about the couple weeks off of work, the couple months of networking time, organizing sponsorship, cell bills, time away from your wife and kids, and personal liability. It's fun and very satisfying to put on a race, but it is still work and if you (as a promoter) aren't rewarded (or at least reimbursed) to some degree, you'll find the race fading away eventually. Lastly, compare the entry fees with other sports with comparable logistics, and we (as dh'ers) are still getting value I believe.
Give this person a cookie!I think the point is...
It's a small oversight (hopefully not purposefully misleading) and maybe they will even get this info on the web before it's completely too late.
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sweet... i tested some out on the local hill this winter for just this reason. the stars and bars felt super quickNo, it's Skin Suit Friday. Stay tuned : )
george, you know i put that up just for youbad form dave, bad form
I've cased the biggest two jumps on the amateur course and rode out cleanly both times. I went back up and hit'em with even more speed and cleared. Just go full bore and don't think, "This is fast enough." It's not. Go as fast as possible and you'll clear'em. Good luck Matt.Oh yea and both courses have big jumps, lots of them.
The one in that last video is 42 feet. The pro jumps are close to 50 lip to lip. There are go arounds for everything (including the pro jumps), but you will lose a lot of time because you'd be doing about 4 or 5 go arounds.I am sure it was discussed already, but I just saw the vid...the jumps are retarded huge looking from the video, especially in pinkbike feet. Is there a girl, I mean stik-line around them?
You mean a Jim M line?I am sure it was discussed already, but I just saw the vid...the jumps are retarded huge looking from the video, especially in pinkbike feet. Is there a girl, I mean stik-line around them?
Leigh would prolly hit em before you eh? LOLIs there a girl, I mean stik-line around them?
What about the Angry Steve line? the one where you walk down the hill after gouging your front triangle cuz you're too much of a dumbass to make sure your linkage bolts are tightfixed
were you pissed at that Platty tree for bending your frame? or at yourself?What about the Angry Steve line? the one where you walk down the hill after gouging your front triangle cuz you're too much of a dumbass to make sure your linkage bolts are tight
The tree. But that hasn't stopped me from continuing to ride the frame. Steel is real yo!were you pissed at that Platty tree for bending your frame? or at yourself?