[SilentBiker]

Hey guys.

I'm pretty new to this forum, but I know some of you from riding.

I have a 2003 Iron Horse SGS Expert. It came with a 2004 Manitou Swinger 3-way coil (not factory) and I have put a 2004 Boxxer Race on it. I'm having a little technical difficulty with my rear suspension on it. It's a small frame (17"), and I'm convinced that the shock is either the wrong stroke or eye-to-eye length.

The reason I believe this is that when I have the shock in the 7" position, the rear tire rubs the seat flag before the shock bottoms. Does anyone else have this problem? Also, what is the stroke and eye-to-eye length supposed to be?

I can give more info if it's needed, but I figured that no one would read it if I was anymore long-winded than I am already...

Thanks in advance,

Carl

 

[kidwoo]

Most DH bikes will do this if you have the seat too low. By seat "flag" are you talking about the lower rear end of the saddle or something on your frame? I'm guessing it's the seat.

 

[SilentBiker]

No. I'm speaking of the part of my frame that holds the seat post. I have my seat post cut short so that it doesn't hit the swing-arm. There is an IHBC sticker there and my tire has rubbed through it.

 

[MikeD]

I think maybe he means the seat tower.

 

[kidwoo]

I think maybe he means the seat tower.

Right-0.

If that's the case then there is definitely something wrong with the shock size. This was put on by someone you bought the frame from used? There aren't any "extra" shock mount holes drilled in the frame or swing link right?

 

[SilentBiker]

I hope that clears things up...

Also, the shock fits in all the original mounting holes. No new holes.

 

[cali4niabiker]

Hey guys.

I'm pretty new to this forum, but I know some of you from riding.

I have a 2003 Iron Horse SGS Expert. It came with a 2004 Manitou Swinger 3-way coil (not factory) and I have put a 2004 Boxxer Race on it. I'm having a little technical difficulty with my rear suspension on it. It's a small frame (17"), and I'm convinced that the shock is either the wrong stroke or eye-to-eye length.

The reason I believe this is that when I have the shock in the 7" position, the rear tire rubs the seat flag before the shock bottoms. Does anyone else have this problem? Also, what is the stroke and eye-to-eye length supposed to be?

I can give more info if it's needed, but I figured that no one would read it if I was anymore long-winded than I am already...

Thanks in advance,

Carl

What is the actual i 2 i of the shock installed on your frame?

EDIT: FIT LIST FOR A SGS EXPERT - 7.875 i 2 i shock

I'm thinking that you may have the SGS DH, which should have a 8.5 i 2 i Am I hitting the button there?

-CAbiker

 

[J5ive]

I've seen bikes at races with the same problem, I could tell by the paint missing of the seat tube. :|

 

[SilentBiker]

It's the SGS Freeride, so it has two travel adjustments. 6" and 7". I'll find out the eye-to-eye here after dinner.

 

[SilentBiker]

CAbiker, thanks for that link!

According to that web page, my bike requires a shock body of 7.875" eye-to-eye and 2.25" Stroke length. The Manitou that is on my bike is a 2" stroke length. Hmmm...

I have no idea what the eye-to-eye length on it is, but, I'll figure it out when I take it off for the 4th time. I just went out to look at it, and there is shock oil all over everything! I've sent this thing in for warranty 3 times already.

Figures.

-Carl

 

[DßR]

just to clear things up, I think the term you're looking for is "seat mast", not seat flag...

 

[SilentBiker]

Thank you. I'm much wiser now.

 

[kidwoo]

All rise and salute the mighty seat banner!!!

Sounds like you got a shock that's too short for your bike. If you bought it like that used from someone, you need to find them and chuck the shock at their head at a high rate of speed.

 

[Curb Hucker]

if its a 2in stroke isd most likely a 7.5in eye to eye, and that shorter than stock length causes the rubbing

 

[RhinofromWA]

Ask to upgrade to a shock that fits your bike....get the right size shock.

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

sounds like the bike shop put the wrong size on your bike when you got it (new).

you should look at getting a different shock because manitou has been such a pain about trying to fix your shock 2 or 3 times and taking like a month to get it back to you, each time.


you could look for a used fox shock that fits and get it PUSHed...or maybe a 5th if it fits.

 

[SilentBiker]

Thanks guys, I'm going to call Manitou tommorow.

-Carl

P.S. Vince, get a grip! Give me the money and I'll buy a different shock. LOL. You think I'm made of money or somthing!

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

sell your KTM so you can get a bike that works and then actually keep up with me


if they won't give you a different size that fits, then you should ask for your money back. Manitou has been really bad to you

 

[SilentBiker]

I do remember passing you and beating you to the bottom of Kitsuma last week...

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

you only passed me when i crashed and flipped off the trail...

 

[SilentBiker]

Hmmm.... I woulda' passed you in that switch back, but you were hogging the entire trail! :eviltongu

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

that sidehill was about a foot wide (right after that switch back). hmm...mighta been sorta hard to pass me there. so, yes. I was hogging the trail ink:

 

[T-Pirate]

Hmmm.... I woulda' passed you in that switch back, but you were hogging the entire trail! :eviltongu

Someone must have been REALLY anxious to get to the air conditioned car! Unless of course it was your car which I am almost positive has no air conditioning.

Dude, get a romic. Thats what I would get if my SGS needed a new shock.

 

[SilentBiker]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[T-Pirate]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Oh yeah....well you are paying about....1/6th of my hardtail so thanks!

 

[me89]

lol you guys are morons. carl its kinda hard to pass on SINGLEtrack trails lol. and maybee i will have a bike that can keep up with yours vince my ironhorse will kick your bullits ass lol.

 

[me89]

you need to put an avalanch rear on your sgs and then get the avalanch forks to replace that boxxer crap up front.lol

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

your KTM needs to stop blowing up so that you're not always in debt.


a romic might be pretty nice on your SGS, and i think that you should get it because you might have less problems with it and i'm tired of you complaning about not being able to ride your SGS.

 

[me89]

lol im feelin ya vince

 

[SilentBiker]

Don't hate me 'cause you are slow. And Eric, when will you learn that I can just ride better than you? Your SGS will not help you. I'll always be faster!

 

[me89]

lol i can stay keep up with you on my xc bike now lol

so imagine dh with a dh bike with good pedeling and 8" of travel with my skill. yeh your faster now but eventually i will get you muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: