Need Help With Rim Choices.

Fulton · Apr 20, 2004

the 729 are the new 321's right??

get those, or whatever the new 521 is, build them up with DT Alpine III, Supercomp, or DB 14/15 spokes and brass nips, and you'll be set!

Lumberjack · Apr 20, 2004

1st=729 2nd=singletracks

Matt D · Apr 20, 2004

Are 321's much lighter than Mag30's? I doubt it. If you're looking to shave some weight, go with the new 521's (whatever the new number is); especially if you're 150# with gear. 321's are overkill for you IMO.

Build with 14/15 DB DT Swiss spokes and aluminum nipples for a light wheel. Al nips if you are a good mechanic and stay on top of your stuff, if you tend not to work on your bike a lot or aren't that good at it get brass nips.

Salami · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Matt D
Are 321's much lighter than Mag30's? I doubt it.

The D321's weigh in at 170 grams lighter than the Mag 30's.

kidwoo · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by DHRacer001

Anyone got anything to say about the singletracks???

Thanks
Dave

That they are inferior to Mavics?

I'm kidding, I've never owned a set of them.

I've been riding both 521's and 321's mostly at northstar the last few years, both built with dt 2.0 straight gauge spokes. I have never had to do anything more than true them once or twice a summer. I've been really happy with at least those two options.

Salami · Apr 20, 2004

EX721 = D521
EX823 = D3.1
EX729 = D321

Got it?

SilentJ · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by DHRacer001

That a big difference when doubled for both wheels, if you guys think that the 823, which is the 521 would be fine I will probably build those.

521s are where its at. Im 210 without gear and have 2 521's (both front, straight 14g spokes) one of which is 4 or 5 years old and has taken major abuse. I think theyre the best rim out there. If I were building a DH race bike, Id have dual 521's. If I were building a FS trailbike, Id have dual 521's. If I were building a road bike,...well okay maybe not.

I dont run one on the rear because Im not exactly feathery (both in weight and smoothness), Im on a ht, and I wanted a 24" rim.

jimmydean · Apr 20, 2004

I am 235 on a good day and not very smooth. I don't go huge, but I am hard on rims. I've been very happy with the singletracks. I will be running them on my next bike as well. A real good rim for the dough.

RD · Apr 20, 2004

to clear things up

dexterq20 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Matt D
Al nips if you are a good mechanic and stay on top of your stuff, if you tend not to work on your bike a lot or aren't that good at it get brass nips.

How does brass vs. aluminum make a difference in this situation? Somebody please enlighten me.

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by dexterq20
How does brass vs. aluminum make a difference in this situation? Somebody please enlighten me.

Alloy nipples tend to break, It's not recommended to us an alloy nipples for DH use.

zedro · Apr 20, 2004

unless your running like 3.0s, at your weight the D521s (EX721s) would be the most ideal IMO. I would hesitate on saying the 823s due to the controversy around them, despite me getting a set in the next few weeks.

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by zedro
unless your running like 3.0s, at your weight the D521s (EX721s) would be the most ideal IMO. I would hesitate on saying the 823s due to the controversy around them, despite me getting a set in the next few weeks.

Thats just cause Acadian isn't smooth

I have 2 pairs of 823's on order right now, and my new Chris King hubs shuld be here within the next day or two

zedro · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Thats just cause Acadian isn't smooth I have 2 pairs of 823's on order right now, and my new Chris King hubs shuld be here within the next day or two

what are you gonna be using to build them up with? It'd be nice to take some notes on the spoke tension used and see if any problems arise too.

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by zedro
what are you gonna be using to build them up with? It'd be nice to take some notes on the spoke tension used and see if any problems arise too.

I'm building them with DT comp 14/15/14 spokes and 16mm brass nipples. As far as tension, I do it all by feel (been doing it that way for the 10+ years I've been building wheels), So far I've had good luck with my other 823's and the several I've built. Haven't seen any come back to me...........knock on wood.

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Acadian
at the frequency you ride...those should last you 10 years.

Maybe even longer

Curb Hucker · Apr 20, 2004

hmmm,

now where have i seen a King Hubed, DT DB spoked, EX823 wheelset with 2.8/2.5 Michys and Hope M6 rotors

Poser

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by ViolentVolante
hmmm,

now where have i seen a King Hubed, DT DB spoked, EX823 wheelset with 2.8/2.5 Michys and Hope M6 rotors

Poser

Lets see.....
I had my rims first, my spokes first, my M6's first and my Michy's first, so I think you're the copy cat.

I'm just and trying different hubs.

Oh, and a Disco first

Curb Hucker · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Lets see.....
I had my rims first, my spokes first, my M6's first and my Michy's first, so I think you're the copy cat. I'm just and trying different hubs.

Oh, and a Disco first

I know, im just being a dick, actually i had those rims in Janurary, possibly before you. You will like the king hubs, did you get black ones by any chance.

At least i dont have an 888, white frame, and my Thomson post and Middleburns are Black

Brian HCM#1 · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by ViolentVolante
I know, im just being a dick, actually i had those rims in Janurary, possibly before you. You will like the king hubs, did you get black ones by any chance.

At least i dont have an 888, white frame, and my Thomson post and Middleburns are Black

Nope got my rims in september, and got red ones.

Oh and did I also mention, both Karpiels were the color I ordered

Curb Hucker · Apr 20, 2004

i could have waited 3 more weeks for my black one, but im extremely impatient.

xy9ine · Apr 20, 2004

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Alloy nipples tend to break, It's not recommended to us an alloy nipples for DH use.

i'd say otherwise. with a good build, they're reliable. i've been running them forever; though i'm not heavy (165#), i go relatively large, race expert dh & ride knarley trail, blah, blah, & have never had an alloy nipple fail - tho i've broken a several spokes @ the elbow. i've got an alloy-nippled, titanium spoked tioga front rim thats into its 3rd season on my v10. i've got heavier friends with similar experiences as well. in my experience, unless you're heavy or particularily hackish, alloy nips are fine.

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