Need new wheelset

The Toninator · Jul 29, 2005

KING KING KING!
717
brass nipples for sure
gage will depend on they type of lacing you wana do.
depending on your size you could go 1x or 2x up front then really chi-chi in the rear with a 3x drive and 2x non or even better 3x drive and radial non :eek:

TreeSaw · Jul 29, 2005

Sq-Earl is running the DT Onyx and Mavic 819 rims and likes them thus far. He hasn't dented them up yet, which is rather surprising considering his luck with rims

MTB_Rob_NC · Jul 29, 2005

Jozz

Have you considered just going with the CrossMax XL's? I have had them on my Heckler for quite some time and couldnt be happier. I had to service the pawls once after a really dusty day followed by a rainy day (fine dust, then dampness, got one of the pawls stuck)

Other then that, they have been flawless, can be found for ~ $550 a pair, and for like $50 you can get a 2 year warranty.

MTB_Rob_NC · Jul 29, 2005

Jozz said:
I went trough two cassette bodys and wheel bearings in two years. Also they are so expensive to repair.

I love their rims, but do not trust their rear hubs. (front has been flawless though)

Interesting. I am not the most mechanically inclined, and my LBS showed me how to service the the hub, and I feel comfortable doing it. I have come to find out that the pawls can stick often, but they are easy to repair.

I do not konw if the CrossRoc (the low end sorry) are the same as the CrossMax or not.

Colin · Jul 29, 2005

Mtb_Rob_FL said:
Jozz

Have you considered just going with the CrossMax XL's? I have had them on my Heckler for quite some time and couldnt be happier. I had to service the pawls once after a really dusty day followed by a rainy day (fine dust, then dampness, got one of the pawls stuck)

Other then that, they have been flawless, can be found for ~ $550 a pair, and for like $50 you can get a 2 year warranty.

As much as I'd love to run a Crossmax XL in the front, I think you'd be better served running something else. For that much coin you could have a set built with tubeless rims, butted spokes, and the Hope Bulbs. And, with the Hopes, you'll still have the QR-->20mm option of the Crossmax XLs.

jacksonpt · Jul 29, 2005

I've got the Onyx hubs on my 575 (with DT D4.1 rims and DT spokes). Been running them for about a year and overall I'm pretty happy with them. There is some very slight drag in the freewheel already, but last season was the wettest on record around here, so they got totally abused. That, and I haven't done any service/maintenance on them at all.

Take it for what it's worth.

TreeSaw · Jul 29, 2005

Jozz said:
Is he running tubeless?

How's the weight?

@Tony... I'de love to own a King wheelset one of those days... but right now its just not possible...

Yupper! He has a tubeless wheelset for the 575 now (he got it from his loving wife for his birthday in February). I don't believe that they're all that heavy either. I'd have to ask him about the weight specifics though.

MMcG · Jul 29, 2005

Jozz - I have a Mavic 317 laced to a DT Onyx hub in the rear and it works great and is pretty light too.

My front hub is a specialized stout - which is kinda cool for a front hub as it takes a beefer skewer than a normal QR front hub.

I don't think you could go wrong with DT Swiss hubs. I also hear their customer service is kick ass.

The Toninator · Jul 29, 2005

Mtb_Rob_FL said:
Jozz

Have you considered just going with the CrossMax XL's? I have had them on my Heckler for quite some time and couldnt be happier. I had to service the pawls once after a really dusty day followed by a rainy day (fine dust, then dampness, got one of the pawls stuck)

Other then that, they have been flawless, can be found for ~ $550 a pair, and for like $50 you can get a 2 year warranty.

man for 600 you can get a custom set of kings with a 10 warranty on the hubs.

The Toninator · Jul 29, 2005

The Toninator said:
man for 600 you can get a custom set of kings with a 10 warranty on the hubs.

oh wait i think it's 5 years on hubs and 10 years on headsets.

indieboy · Aug 1, 2005

2 cassette bodies and bearings isn't probably that bad for the type of riding you tend to do.......honestly.........

Acadian · Aug 2, 2005

I was in the same boat...I would of loved CK hubs, but alas you almost have to be rich these days to afford them

Rims: Mavic 819's
Spokes: DT Competition
Nipples: Brass
Hubs: DT Swiss.

Hope hubs are also pretty damn good IMO.

Boomer-61 · Aug 2, 2005

I've had my Hugi Onyxs for about four years now. Had the rear rebuilt once but the front has been perfect. I raced DH on them and they did fine. They are relatively light and relatively inexpensive. Also, have you looked at the WTB laser lite? The front hub is a mere 140 grams; retail is about 80 bucks. I feel for you. I'm in the process of converting from a DH rig to a trail/XC rig. I too am thinking about the Mavic XC717 rims. Good stuff. Good luck.

SkaredShtles · Aug 2, 2005

Boomer-61 said:
<snip>Also, have you looked at the WTB laser lite? The front hub is a mere 140 grams; retail is about 80 bucks.

Rumored to be an American Classic design - weren't those good ones?

pixelninja · Aug 3, 2005

SkaredShtles said:
Rumored to be an American Classic design - weren't those good ones?

Not just rumor. WTB licensed the design from American Classic. I had a set on my previous bike that I rode for 2 years with no problems.

mogulskr · Aug 3, 2005

I wanted Kings, but with the price increase it was nuts. I ended up with Hadleys 108pt engagement. They are laced with DT spokes and DT 4.1d rims. Only had them for about a month, but love them so far.

mogulskr · Aug 3, 2005

Now that I'm home. Here's a picture of the wheelset.

MMcG · Aug 4, 2005

mogulskr said:
Now that I'm home. Here's a picture of the wheelset.

Woah - nice and pimpin - what did that wheelset set you back? Ballpark number is fine.

mogulskr · Aug 4, 2005

Ball park was 550 shipped. The Hope Skewers were 35 extra.

pixelninja · Aug 4, 2005

mogulskr said:
I wanted Kings, but with the price increase it was nuts. I ended up with Hadleys 108pt engagement. They are laced with DT spokes and DT 4.1d rims. Only had them for about a month, but love them so far.

Any idea of the weight? And what type of riding do you do?

mogulskr · Aug 4, 2005

I weighed them on one of those food scales, it was in ounces and I can't remember. They are on a 575 and I would say I ride agressive XC. Lots of roots and rocks in NE.

mogulskr · Aug 4, 2005

Looking around at various sites for wieghts this is what I cam up with.
DT Swiss XR4.1d rims - 425g
DT super Comp spokes (32) - 185g
Hadley QR front - 194g
Hadley QR rear - 355g
Hope Skewers (pair) 114g

Front wheel - 1022g / Rear wheel 861g

I got the weights off of Universal Cycles and DT Swiss websites.

pixelninja · Aug 4, 2005

mogulskr said:
Looking around at various sites for wieghts this is what I cam up with.

Not bad. I think my next wheelset will be a duplicate of the set I had on my previous bike. They were WTB Laser Disc Lite hubs laced to Velocity VXC rims. Built by Mike at Oddsandendos. The front weighed 790g and the rear was 970g. I remember because Mike had put a sticker on each wheel stating the weight. This was without skewers. I believe they had Wheelsmith spokes and he used alloy nipples except for the drive side of the rear wheel, where he used brass. These can be had from Oddsandendos for a measly $360, and that includes shipping. My last pair held up great for 2 years of aggressive XC along the CO front range.

genpowell71 · Aug 17, 2005

I have set of Sun Rhynolites. They weigh a bit more, but they are some tough rims.

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