[kidwoo]

I know this is a common problem because I heard other people's forks doing this. I've got an 02 super t that rattles like a beyotch when I'm climbing and only minimally using the thing at the top of its stroke. Right where the damper rod pokes through the threaded top cap, secured by the little e-clip/c-clip thingy.

I've tried getting washers underneath the clip to get rid of the play but even the thinnest washer I can find is too thick to get the clip back on. Plus finding one with an ID large enough to accomodate the damper rod plus have an OD small enough to not interfere with the aluminum knob that goes back on the rod is proving to be kind of difficult. I've already lost knobs before on this and another old zoke fork so I want them to be seated pretty well if possible.

Anybody else had success with any other solutions?

Thanks

 

[binary visions]

Have you tried looking at rubber or fiberglass washers?

Those come in thin enough sizes, and you can trim the OD as needed.

 

[kidwoo]

Have you tried looking at rubber or fiberglass washers?

Those come in thin enough sizes, and you can trim the OD as needed.

Actually I hadn't even thought of that. There would be a degree of compression there too so that I could force the clip back on. Maybe I can find some plumbing stuff that small that isn't an o-ring..........

You new breed of super blinky piggies are as smart as you are varied. I respect your wisdom and hope to one day visit your planet with offerings of oat and sunscreen.

 

[Kornphlake]

Why exactly is the damper rattling? is the top cap worn down or is the clip bent or is it just one of those mysteries? Try www.mcmaster.com, on the left hand side in the search box type in washer, then scroll down on the results page and select the thickness of washer you want, they have as thin as .001, that's thinner than a piece of paper.

For a quick fix you might try using some gasket material and cutting your own spacer with a leather punch and scissors.

 

[DßR]

I'm pretty sure Marzocchi will give you or sell you shims to eliminate that exact problem. Give 'em a call and see what's up...

Or cut something out of a PBR can. Only PBR will work though.

 

[kidwoo]

Why exactly is the damper rattling? is the top cap worn down or is the clip bent or is it just one of those mysteries?

I've had 2 old z1 forks that never did it but it seems this happens with people using the bigger forks and beating on them a little harder. But yeah it's almost like the aluminum threaded top cap got a little worn/compressed and the damper rod sticks through the top of it a little more than when new. I was thinking maybe someone might have found a solution underneath the top cap but there's not really anything there to grab on to, the clip on top is pretty much the only place to start screwing with it.

I'm going to check out a hardware store at lunch today and see what I can find. Ordering a $ 0.000001 part from mcmaster seems silly but certainly a good idea if I can't find anything here. Thanks for the linky.

 

[kidwoo]

I'm pretty sure Marzocchi will give you or sell you shims to eliminate that exact problem. Give 'em a call and see what's up...

Or cut something out of a PBR can. Only PBR will work though.

That's a novel idea, this whole "go to the manufacturer" thing. I've heard of if actually.

Did your fork ever do this? It's older but pretty much the same setup from what I remember.

 

[=[Stinky]=]

Can you dial in the pre-load a little, to tighten things up?

 

[vitox]

hey kidwoo what is exactly your definition for "real life solution"?

as in "not buying parts from marzocchi" or in "ghetto" or "whatever works"?

 

[kidwoo]

hey kidwoo what is exactly your definition for "real life solution"?

as in "not buying parts from marzocchi" or in "ghetto" or "whatever works"?

Haha yeah I guess I should have specified. Everyone that I ride with kept saying just stick a washer in there. Everytime I'd ride and hear it rattling, I'd just think "I need to stick a washer in there when I get home". Turns out........that doesn't work so well with the average run of the mill variety of washer. So by "real life" I was implying a solution that someone had actually performed and had work for them, not just the obvious conjecture solution that I had been assuming would work.

Stinky: You can get it to tighten up a little by cranking down on the preload but I get no sag and I do climb on this bike, I need it down. Also most of the tension goes to the top cap, not the rod so it only reduces the noise without eliminating it really.

 

[binary visions]

Actually I hadn't even thought of that. There would be a degree of compression there too so that I could force the clip back on. Maybe I can find some plumbing stuff that small that isn't an o-ring..........

Actually, you don't even need to go to the plumbing section. They should be in boxes right next to the metal washers - at least, that's where they reside in all of the hardware stores around me.

Worst case, if you can't find any, you could see if you can buy a small roll of rubber (for example, the self-adhering kind that is used to seal radiator hoses), and cut a small hole in the middle of it.

 

[DßR]

That's a novel idea, this whole "go to the manufacturer" thing. I've heard of if actually.

Did your fork ever do this? It's older but pretty much the same setup from what I remember.

actually the super t doesn't do it, but my '03 Shiver does. I haven't bothered to get the shims b/c it doesn't bother me much, but I know a few people who have done that fix (by calling up marzo).

Disc brake shims for I.S. are usually available in .2 and .1mm thicknesses, that might work although the hole in the center might be too small (~5mm I guess).

 

[Kornphlake]

I'm going to check out a hardware store at lunch today and see what I can find. Ordering a $ 0.000001 part from mcmaster seems silly but certainly a good idea if I can't find anything here. Thanks for the linky.

Actually the washer I was looking at was $8.25 for a box of 25. I'd still check a hardware store first though. I have some little rubber washers here at work that would probabally do the trick and you might have a better chance of finding that at a hardware store where you can just buy 2 for .25 cents.

 

[kidwoo]

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Disc brake shims for I.S. are usually available in .2 and .1mm thicknesses, that might work although the hole in the center might be too small (~5mm I guess).

Yeah the damper rod is too big of a diameter for disk shims. That was the first thing I tried.

I've gotten some good suggestions now. Thanks guys.

 

[allsk8sno]

couldn't you just get a thicker rubber o-ring for under the top cap??
otherwise just use popcan material..supper cheap hehe

 

[oly]

KW- my shiver had that loose rattle thing, and Brian P hooked me up with some real thin shim washers. If you cant reach them or they want to charge ya i could send ya some from a stash i know of. there besically shim stack washers so they come in all sorts of sizes and thickness. PM me if ya need help.

 

[=[Stinky]=]

Stinky: You can get it to tighten up a little by cranking down on the preload but I get no sag and I do climb on this bike, I need it down. Also most of the tension goes to the top cap, not the rod so it only reduces the noise without eliminating it really.

Well then, I would say try and contact marzocci, since someone said they knew of the problem... Putting a random washer in will likely void any warranty... Hrm, well its an '02 so there probably isnt a warranty left. Even tho, if Marz has to rebuild the fork, or reapair, and they find somthing like that. You will might have a hard time getting your fork back for free/cheap.

Just a thought. Wasnt there a dude who worked for Marz, and used to post on this forum? Maybe he can speak up.

ANdrew