I am leaning towards 650b over 29r. Looking for something in the 130-150mm travel range. Slack and low please. I like the ride of the dw-link and vpp. But leaning towards the dw-link for efficiency. Prefer carbon. My list: Turner Burner 650b Pivot carbon 429 Ibis ripley Yeti sb 29r Rocky Mtn attitude Scott genius 700 Intense carbine SC Tallboy lt For those who ride trail bikes with vpp...do you flip on propedal often? Any noticeable feedback?