[6thElement]

Currently have an XL DHR, there's nothing wrong with it, but I haven't bought a new bike for myself a while so it's the one I'm thinking about changing.

6'2" and I always wanted a little extra length than the XL DHR gave me. Don't race, not a big fan of groomed jump lines.

Price being a consideration I was thinking new wheels and fork and then moving across the rest of my drivetrain to the new frame as it's all in good parts in good condition and meets my needs.

Frames I've been considering:
Banshee Legend
Nukeproof Pulse
GG DH
Canfield Jedi

What else is out there I've missed that might be worth considering?

 

[ZHendo]

I've been lusting after a Banshee Legend for a while now...I keep coming back to it. The Transition TR500 frame doesn't look especially pretty on its own, but I've noticed a few very sick builds in the back of truck beds lately that had me rethinking my prior opinions on them. I also happen to think the Intense M16 is a very, very pretty bike, and it seems to be well received.

 

[jstuhlman]

i've been eyeing this...seems like a steal
https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2007320/

 

[jonKranked]

GG DH

 

[6thElement]

i've been eyeing this...seems like a steal
https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2007320/

Seems like a good deal, you can tell he needed the XL over the L just by how far back he has that seat rammed.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

The Nukeproof Pulse seems the bike to go to if you want a new generation bike but still run 26" wheels.
Since the bottom bracket seems to sit at +2mm from the hubs, you could easily get away with it. So no new parts needed. The fork needs to be clamped higher, though. Otherwise you steepen the head angle and lower the BB.
The rest looks pretty spot on.
63° HA
440mm CS
Reach in XL: 465mm
Stack: 672mm
Wheelbase in XL: 1272mm
BB drop: +2mm

 

[TrumbullHucker]

dude STOP

NO

i had some winter itch looking at newer 650bees frames, but i came to a conclusion that the DHR is still tits.. idk what i would achieve/gain if i got a 650 dh bike

 

[6thElement]

dude STOP

NO

i had some winter itch looking at newer 650bees frames, but i came to a conclusion that the DHR is still tits.. idk what i would achieve/gain if i got a 650 dh bike

Yeah, there's that aspect too.

Keep wondering if I should try and find one of those offset headsets so I could lengthen the frame a little.

Was it someone on here or emptybeer that made one for a DHR?

Works Components lists (but out of stock) for a ZS56 headset, but I think I would need ZS49...

edit: Superstar have an EC cupped version for an extra 7mm but I'd also lose a little going to a lower EC over my current ZS...
http://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/stretchset-reach-adjust-headset.htm

 

[blindboxx2334]

edit: Superstar have an EC cupped version for an extra 7mm but I'd also lose a little going to a lower EC over my current ZS...
http://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/stretchset-reach-adjust-headset.htm

FYI, superstar doesn't ship to the US because they are scared that you will sue them when you buy their shit.

 

[Nick]

@6thElement - what length stem are you using?

 

[6thElement]

FYI, superstar doesn't ship to the US because they are scared that you will sue them when you buy their shit.

No concerns, I'd get it shipped to family over there and then sue them.

@Nick 50mm Thomson direct mount.

 

[djjohnr]

Have you tried any of the new school longer reach bikes? Do you like? My medium Delirium had a reach of 442mm, the large that I switched to is 468mm. The XL DHR you're on is ~424mm, and I'm a good deal shorter then you. I'd definitely try a newer long reach bike and see if you like it.

 

[jackalope]

i've been eyeing this...seems like a steal
https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2007320/

You should eye this too

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1824755/

Not a big fan of that blue rear ∆, but thats why they make paint stripper...

 

[mrgto]

You should eye this too

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1824755/

Not a big fan of that blue rear ∆, but thats why they make paint stripper...

Dang! If I weren't building a DH bike for my wife I'd scoop that up asap. New tires and your set! Then replace parts as needed.

 

[jackalope]

Dang! If I weren't building a DH bike for my wife I'd scoop that up asap. New tires and your set! Then replace parts as needed.

For real. I'm having tempting thoughts atm...Pretty sure I could do a parts swap on my current ride, sell it for it a little less than the GG/DH, and then I wouldn't be forced to buy an expensive new DH bike in a few years anyway. I'd be saving my family money! I feel confident my wife will celebrate my financial acumen.

Hooray for Bike Math™!!

 

[mrgto]

@jackalope

 

[Udi]

Just an option but you could try the reach adjusting headset along with a 650b front wheel and fork. It wouldn't be a big loss if you still wanted a frame later down the track, you'd just need the frame and rear wheel.

I'd definitely go for the EC49 version if you go that route, I think this one:
http://www.workscomponents.co.uk/reach-adjust---ec49-ec49---to-suit-1-18-steerer-tube---7mm-reach-363-p.asp

At 6'2 I don't think the extra stack height is anything that wouldn't be absorbed by your overall setup for bar height anyway, the dw-dhr has a very short headtube.

I actually replied to one of your posts about this back in 2015 here, I ended up trying it myself a month later and absolutely loved it. I'm full 650 on everything now, but I honestly had more fun on the 650/26 thing, it was a great mix of motoring over rough stuff while still being able to rail a tight corner here and there.

 

[roflbox]

You should eye this too

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1824755/

Not a big fan of that blue rear ∆, but thats why they make paint stripper...

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that is a nice bike

 

[6thElement]

I actually replied to one of your posts about this back in 2015 here, I ended up trying it myself a month later and absolutely loved it. I'm full 650 on everything now, but I honestly had more fun on the 650/26 thing, it was a great mix of motoring over rough stuff while still being able to rail a tight corner here and there.

Instead of the 27.5 I found a 26" version locally in VGC that I picked up cheaply and was riding for the latter part of last season.

I ended up tooling around in the driveway on it with my lame attempts at manualing last night. Maybe I should wait until I've done a couple of days lift this year before making any changes, only 8 weeks until the first resort should be open for biking...

 

[Sandwich]

At your height, I'd definitely be looking at a larger frame. Those turners are short. Beautiful frames, ride great, but weird geometry in the grand scheme of things.

If you like the DW link, most people seem to transition well to the banshee whatever link. I'm becoming a big fan of simplicity in a DH bike, but that doesn't work for everybody...the banshee is just about there, but I'd worry that the jedi has a lot going on, and therefore would be a lot to maintain.

 

[StiHacka]

At your height, I'd definitely be looking at a larger frame. Those turners are short. Beautiful frames, ride great, but weird geometry in the grand scheme of things.

If you like the DW link, most people seem to transition well to the banshee whatever link. I'm becoming a big fan of simplicity in a DH bike, but that doesn't work for everybody...the banshee is just about there, but I'd worry that the jedi has a lot going on, and therefore would be a lot to maintain.

Fwiw, the suspension on my Canfield trail bike needs 1/10th of maintenance of a DW link Ibis. Not apples to apples, I know.

 

[mrgto]

Fwiw, the suspension on my Canfield trail bike needs 1/10th of maintenance of a DW link Ibis. Not apples to apples, I know.

Good to hear. My wife's Jedi that I'm building looks burly as hell but the pivots had me worried!

 

[Sandwich]

Fwiw, the suspension on my Canfield trail bike needs 1/10th of maintenance of a DW link Ibis. Not apples to apples, I know.

idlers be idlin'.

but yeah, the ibis has something that resembles bearings, the canfield is pretty stout. It just has a lot of bearings, vs. a single pivot and an underworked linkage (or none at all).

 

[TrumbullHucker]

At your height, I'd definitely be looking at a larger frame. Those turners are short. Beautiful frames, ride great, but weird geometry in the grand scheme of things.

If you like the DW link, most people seem to transition well to the banshee whatever link. I'm becoming a big fan of simplicity in a DH bike, but that doesn't work for everybody...the banshee is just about there, but I'd worry that the jedi has a lot going on, and therefore would be a lot to maintain.

funny you should mention that.. when i was getting stir crazy during the winter i was looking at Darksides

 

[6thElement]

The King is dead, long live the King.

XL Raw DHR, Boxxer Team and silver Deemax will be listed for sale very soon.

 

[Nick]

Is it being replaced with another DH bike???

 

[sbabuser]

I'd get another Jedi in a heartbeat, if I had time to ride chairlifts. Instead, all my bike money goes into making my kids' bikes cooler.

 

[6thElement]

Is it being replaced with another DH bike???

 

[Nick]

Nope, sorry. That isn't going to cut it.
Spill the beans, buddy!!