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New Fox DH coil shock
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Little bird told me, these orange springs are lightweight steel springs. Kinda Stendec type.
i,m amazed they have not gone to a bee hive design spring , they have been using them in valvespring designs and are lighter in weight and use less lbs when compared to a straight wind design
Fox are also branching out into beehiving and have posted an internal ad for beekeepers.
You didn't hear that from me though.
You didn't hear that from me though.
That shape is more for resonance at high rpm. Since the spring varies along its height it won't all resonate and compress at once.
The difficulty I see on bikes is that the entire spring has to be bigger than the shock body, so a beehive would just be wider yet, possibly causing clearance issues with the reservoir or the frame.
But that's just one way to look at it.
Rad = race and drink
Really aweful design
Really aweful design
Eibach was in fact the manufacturer of the K9 "Race Springs" as they were stamped with Eibach's name/logo but are no longer in production. Currently, I'm particularly interested in similar offerings by Stendecworks/SA Springs:
http://stendecworks.com/springs/
http://sa-springs.com/
@Udi: I hope you've got a full wallet.
Available in both coil and float version.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/fox-x2-36-sls-sea-otter-2015.html
Available in both coil and float version.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/fox-x2-36-sls-sea-otter-2015.html
@Udi: I hope you've got a full wallet.
Available in both coil and float version.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/fox-x2-36-sls-sea-otter-2015.html
So... A CCDB...PinkBike said:
What did you expect from a regurgitating damper?
I expected this as soon as photos of these protoypes were floating around...
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I should had taken the time to put a few more words in my previous post. I mean, they couldn't just call it a "twin tube damper" just like everyone else, they had to go the route of the reciprocating damper...
Yeah, one that doesn't leak and develop shaft play I would imagine - the latter described as "normal" by CC. I've seen a few now where you can rock the shaft around visibly, and they don't seem to consider it a warranty issue. I think there are a lot of shocks out there these days that perform great, but only a few that'll do it trouble-free for a few seasons and I think Fox have generally been above-par on this front.
The other issue with the CCDB is that the HS valving (spring-loaded poppet only) is preset and non-adjustable aside from spring preload, which doesn't actually offer the most optimal setup for every frame or rider. Even for a competent tuner, a valve-seat tool is required to disassemble those valves, and then you'd need to fabricate a custom spring to have control over the entire damping curve. It sounds like Fox have made an effort to improve this common issue with twin-tube dampers by offering easier access and different valve options - so to me this actually represents a substantial upgrade over a CCDB by offering the ability to completely optimise for different frames.
This is a non-issue on conventional designs with shimmed pistons, because the shim configuration controls the spring rate.
I know, I know, I was just pulling your chain. While I have to reckon I've never had the opportunity to test a CCDB, I never got completely sold by that simple fact you just exposed: a unique base tune, usable on all the different suspension platforms and in all the different riding styles...
Yeah I know you were, just thought I'd leave it there to save tabletop84 writing another retarded reply.
But you're absolutely right - the reality is those dampers would work great on a lot of frames for a lot of people, but there would also be scenarios where they aren't perfect - and on a shimmed shock you could simply re-valve them to suit, but on a primarily poppet valved shock, you really just have to deal with it.
But you're absolutely right - the reality is those dampers would work great on a lot of frames for a lot of people, but there would also be scenarios where they aren't perfect - and on a shimmed shock you could simply re-valve them to suit, but on a primarily poppet valved shock, you really just have to deal with it.
Fox is pretty proud of this one.
595 for the damper
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=73595&category=136
Another 130 if you want the spring.......
$730 rear shock........hmm....
Also see: http://nsmb.com/will-baby-boomers-kill-mtb/
595 for the damper
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=73595&category=136
Another 130 if you want the spring.......
$730 rear shock........hmm....
Also see: http://nsmb.com/will-baby-boomers-kill-mtb/
133 USD
Sounds like that's where fox is getting them probably.
3 bucks to get a spring without that hideous orange? Sounds worth it to me.
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See, this is the thing: Function before Fashion I always say, but Orange with a capital "OH" isn't exactly a neutral color that will look good with most paint schemes...
I understand the reasons behind using Orange, but if FOX offered them in, say, white; THAT would be a better choice comparatively speaking.
I understand the reasons behind using Orange, but if FOX offered them in, say, white; THAT would be a better choice comparatively speaking.
Necro bump! Jenson has the 2017 X2 and DHX2 on sale, got me a DHX2 w/ climb switch for my Balance for $329. I am still quite happy with the Topaz but I have been missing a coil shock on my trail bike.