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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by jackalope, Jan 24, 2019.
Hollow promises and under-delivery
You should get your money back.
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they should bring back the gravity part, the switch to just guerilla bikes was a little sad...
that's just the mixer for their sweet sweet 90s era happy hardcore
Went to FB page. Saw live band being streamed. Expected thrash metal. Clicked...got 90s indie/phish mashup. Brand image ruined forever.
it's going to be an e bike, isn't it?
It's not too late...
@mtg will spf30 be sufficient?
Alloy front triangles still an option?
May have a very clean looking Smash frame in size LG with King headset for sale!
welllllll shiiiiiiiit. will it have patented S.U.N.B.L.O.C.K.E.R. (SuperUniqueNoBullshitLayersOfCrabonKillzEveryRox) powers?
Unpossible, everybody knows you can’t build a carbon frame in the US for a reasonable price.
Well, to be fair, it's only half-carbon.
Was saying the other day I'm a fan of carbon bits, but always prefer aluminium chainstays for damage resistance. Just seems less likely to get gouged on a rock that way.
Dayyyyum...they're still only 2200 which is good! I really like the new The Smash.
Any particular reason why the 29er wasn't made to be over 150-160mm travel?
Sooo, what does it weigh? How much less than the aluminum frame (someone had to ask, right)?
@mtg are you guys going to burn the existing (if any) aluminium frames?
My understanding is they can ship them to China and they will dump them in the ocean for you
Sheeet, now I want a Smash with 27.5 wheels! Anyone interested in a like-new Hightower frame?
Is this the beginning of outsourcing to China for GG, or is it made in the USA?
So $2240 for frame + $445 for rear end = $2885?
The 'value' as written in PB is a little misleading if thats the case.
Cool idea and good on GG for reaching for that brass ring.
I'd consider this over the majority of carbon frames but a lifetime warranty SC for a comparable price will likely continue to get my money, especially until the model range fills out a bit more.
Sourced and made in freedom land.
My read is that $2,240 gets you a complete frame, but you can pay another $445 to get a different rear triangle "model" which would allow you to essentially have 2 bikes using the same front triangle.
That's what I read too, but then the comparison to a $3900 Alchemy with the 'save $1000' line confused me (easy enough to do).
Even with the rear end being additional it's not an unreasonable price, imo.
Props @mtg for making that a reality.
That's as may be, but I've always found chainstays to be one of the weakest-links on aluminum bikes, as in they seem to crack near the BB about 50% of the time. Seems like it's a difficult junction to get right.
I agree that it really doesn't make any difference in the long run, not as bad as building a TI mainframe and then using aluminum rockers and rear end and calling it a "titanium frame". Not that I'd want a titanium frame....extra-cracky.
Pre ordered. Guienna pig. Stoked
i too, am now considering more crabonz
As am I. I may have to put my frame on the market just to test the waters. Not sure what a lightly used Shred Dogg frame would even go for? I didn't even see the dog and pony show last night, but everything I have read so far seems to tick all the boxes for me. Of course the other option is to modify my Moab thread to be " how to ensure they lose your bike while shipping to get the insurance money"
i mean, i've already got some carbon (megatrail has enve's, my scott xc bike is carbon with carbon wheels and bars). the biggest "NO's" for me were price and durability. this has definitely addressed the price aspect, and seems to address durability, but i'm curious about long term durability (all my bikes are over 5 years old)
Didn't see that one coming. Pretty rad, good luck guys.
Surprising that some of you are still seriously worried about the long-term durability of carbon bikes. Sure, there are some that suck, and there are some companies who have shitty warranty programs, but that's true of any material. Come on already.
This is the first time I have seriously considered owning a plastic bicycle. Well done GG!
the biggest aspect of it is in regards to failure modes, re: carbon vs alloy.