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stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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Westy said:
You don't like wood or vinyl or are you talking about the wood like vinyl?

My house has Cedar siding. I like the looks but treating it every few years has gotten old.
now a days you can get them factory stained and sealed which lessens the homeowners duties after installation.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Westy said:
You don't like wood or vinyl or are you talking about the wood like vinyl?

My house has Cedar siding. I like the looks but treating it every few years has gotten old.

Wood and vinyl are maintenance nightmares (here at least). I install concrete Hardee Board instead. Framers hate working with it but the homeowner will love it.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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NY
N8 said:
Wood and vinyl are maintenance nightmares (here at least). I install concrete Hardee Board instead. Framers hate working with it but the homeowner will love it.
Hardiboard is nice but it's expensive.

How to you install it?
 

Archslater

Monkey
Mar 6, 2003
154
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Indianapolis
N8 said:
I hope that ain't wood/vinyl siding... :dead:

To keep prices low, many homes in my neigborhood have vinyl siding.... some have fiber cement or wood siding, which I strongly prefer. Even the vinyl siding homes look good because they actually use colors and trim them nicely in wood. From looking at most suburbs, you would think vinyl siding came in 3 colors.... which is far from true.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
54,636
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Sleazattle
stosh said:
now a days you can get them factory stained and sealed which lessens the homeowners duties after installation.
My place is almost 20 years old. I doubt that stuff will last 20 years.

I'm thinking about going to a solid color stain which will double the years between maintenance.
 

douglas

Chocolate Milk Doug
May 15, 2002
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Shut up and Ride
N8 said:
Most people want their house to look like every other house in the neighborhood. Very rare is the person who goes against the norm.
really??

Most peeps I know stay away from the new places because every house looks the same, and the ones that did buy - that is the only thing they dont like about their place
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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stosh said:
Hardiboard is nice but it's expensive.

How to you install it?
It nails on over the sheathing. You can get it textured to look like stucco or you can get it to look like siding. The stuff lasts forever.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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douglas said:
really??

Most peeps I know stay away from the new places because every house looks the same, and the ones that did buy - that is the only thing they dont like about their place

Not around here... you should have heard the all the comments when I used a different color of shingle on my roof than the charcol gray of the rest...
 

Archslater

Monkey
Mar 6, 2003
154
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Indianapolis
SkaredShtles said:
No. I do not wish to live in a city. I live in a suburb. I'd rather live on 5 acres in the mountains, but I choose not to have that commute.

-S.S.-
Actually I grew up in the middle of nowhere... in house surrounded by 20 acres of forest. I love the freedom of the rural environment. I lived in the suburbs for 2 years and since then I've lived in the city. The traffic and chaos of the burbs stressed me out big time after growing up in BFE. I find urban living much more calming. Neigbors are friendly, there is no traffic, since most of that is in the suburbs, and it is usually quiet. There is a nice urban trail system. I find it more comparable to Rural living than the suburbs.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
jmvar said:
<snip>
Would you go to the store an buy a pint of milk, or do you buy 2 gallons at a time? If I had a family I know I would be buying 2 gallons at a time. What about juice, bread, mayo, cereal......can you walk home with 40-50 lbs worth of groceries if you are living in a smart growth community? When it comes to shopping the Costo/Price Club method has extended itself to the supermarkets.
:stupid:

Try *4* gallons of milk at a time....... :dead: And that sometimes doesn't even last a week.

-S.S.-
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
65,995
12,911
In a van.... down by the river
Archslater said:
Actually I grew up in the middle of nowhere... in house surrounded by 20 acres of forest. I love the freedom of the rural environment. I lived in the suburbs for 2 years and since then I've lived in the city. The traffic and chaos of the burbs stressed me out big time after growing up in BFE. I find urban living much more calming. Neigbors are friendly, there is no traffic, since most of that is in the suburbs, and it is usually quiet. There is a nice urban trail system. I find it more comparable to Rural living than the suburbs.
Hmmmm... see - it was completely opposite for me. Of course, I live near the end of a cul de sac with a greenbelt. City living was too manic. I liked being able to walk downtown, but the minuses far outweighed the plusses.

I grew up in BFE too. :D

-S.S.-
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
douglas said:
RUM RAISIN ICECREAM!!



solution: you all can move to albany, heck there are some houses that are for sale for 10-15k, and you can walk or take the bus to get to plenty of stores, jobs, resturants........have fun!

me, I'll keep my joint in the suburbs with room for a pool, a BBQ & a volleyball net, off street parking/a garage, etc.......also I have no intrest in spending time with my neighbors (that I have nothing in common with except the street we live on)

I am both touched and flattered that my rum raisin ice cream theory is being used by others...just thrilled! :D
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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393
NY
N8 said:
Ok... what would you all like to see in a home?

For example:

Stainless appliances
Granite countertops
Home theater
Well designed spaces with good flow. Finishes and crap like electronics are just additions to good spaces.
 

Crashby

Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Rochester, NY
stosh said:
Well designed spaces with good flow...
:stupid:

I'm looking to buy my first "flip" house, and I wont even think about a house unless it "feels good" walking from room to room... flow baby flow...


oh, and a jacuzzi tub is a great selling point these days
 

Archslater

Monkey
Mar 6, 2003
154
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Indianapolis
N8 said:
Define good flow... pic's?
I'm with Stosh, although the average consumer probably doesn't think much about flow.

There are a couple of good books called "The Not So Big House". It talks about how most McMansions are huge and full of wasted space that is seldom used by its inhabitants. Giant foyers and various huge living rooms, etc.... When guests come over they always end up gathering in the kitchen because the rest of the house is so huge and impractical. If the spaces are open, well detailed and well thought out, there is no reason a home needs to be more than a couple thousand square feet. Hard to "define" good flow with photographs. I think homes should be customized to the users.

Edit: I understand that I am probably in the minority with the whole quality over quantity debate.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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stosh said:
That is kinda funny, I never thought about it.

It is a common thing here to do that on an upscale house... and it is always next to the living room... where everyone can enjoy the fruits of your labor..


:dead:
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
Crashby said:
:stupid:

I'm looking to buy my first "flip" house, and I wont even think about a house unless it "feels good" walking from room to room... flow baby flow...


oh, and a jacuzzi tub is a great selling point these days
People overlook thoes points all the time. It's sad that people worry more about the tile in the b-room than how the house "works".
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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393
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Archslater said:
I'm with Stosh, although the average consumer probably doesn't think much about flow.

There are a couple of good books called "The Not So Big House". It talks about how most McMansions are huge and full of wasted space that is seldom used by its inhabitants. Giant foyers and various huge living rooms, etc.... When guests come over they always end up gathering in the kitchen because the rest of the house is so huge and impractical. If the spaces are open, well detailed and well thought out, there is no reason a home needs to be more than a couple thousand square feet. Hard to "define" good flow with photographs. I think homes should be customized to the users.
"REPOST" from like 2 years ago by me!!!!
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Archslater said:
I'm with Stosh, although the average consumer probably doesn't think much about flow.

There are a couple of good books called "The Not So Big House". It talks about how most McMansions are huge and full of wasted space that is seldom used by its inhabitants. Giant foyers and various huge living rooms, etc.... When guests come over they always end up gathering in the kitchen because the rest of the house is so huge and impractical. If the spaces are open, well detailed and well thought out, there is no reason a home needs to be more than a couple thousand square feet. Hard to "define" good flow with photographs. I think homes should be customized to the users.

Yeah I bought the NSBH but I have a few disagreements with the author.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
N8 said:
Yeah I bought the NSBH but I have a few disagreements with the author.
I think if you look at the book's general purpose as opposed to the individual details she talks about it's a great resource.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
N8 said:
I think most people are too into "resell"...
Agreed and that is IMO a difference between Europe and the US.
I see a home as a place to live, not a place to turn a profit.
 

Archslater

Monkey
Mar 6, 2003
154
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Indianapolis
SkaredShtles said:
:stupid: Well designed space is what I'm most interested in. A well designed 2000 sq. foot house is superior to a poorly designed 4000 sq ft house, IMO.

-S.S.-
Exactly, and you could take the money you were going to spend on the larger house and add great details and materials to the 2000 square foot home, making it a great place to be.

When I peer through the giant windows of all of the McMansions as I drive by, all I see is huge empty spaces,and white walls.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
65,995
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In a van.... down by the river
Archslater said:
<snip> When guests come over they always end up gathering in the kitchen because the rest of the house is so huge and impractical.
I don't think that it's because of all the impractical space. People gather in the kitchen because that's the best place to have a shot at gettin' some good grub! :thumb:

Anyways - the fridge is in the kitchen, and that means BEER! :thumb:

-S.S.-
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
Archslater said:
Exactly, and you could take the money you were going to spend on the larger house and add great details and materials to the 2000 square foot home, making it a great place to be.

When I peer through the giant windows of all of the McMansions as I drive by, all I see is huge empty spaces,and white walls.
and large credit card bills.