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The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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bikegeek1 said:
results in a really good axle path and neutral braking
Sorry to shoot this one down right off the bat, but seriously, I'm having a hard time finding any positive adjectives to describe what the axle path and braking will be like... The BB is so closely linked in it's pivot points to the swingarm that this bike is essentially a sweet spot URT, so the axle path is virtually insignificant, and the high single pivot is NOT good for braking. At best, this will brake as well as a Giant DH with no floater, but I think it will actually be closer to a BB7 with no floater.
 

s1ngletrack

Monkey
Aug 17, 2004
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Don't know if it's already been said - but based solely on first impressions, that bike bears a striking resemblance to the new Schwinn I saw advertised the other day - also produced by Pacific. Also, I'm sure other people have their reasons for hating Mongoose - but personally it kind of pissed me off when I snapped the swingarm on my 4 Banger several years ago - only to find that Pacific had just bought Schwinn.
 

DßR

They saw my bloomers
Feb 17, 2004
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the DC
Sir_Crackien said:
that is a knok off of the azonic emiliator but it is not exactly that same. so they do make a dh bike, for some reason they don't list it on their web site.
That is a catalog bike, Syadasti's right. It's made by Astro. They make the Eliminator as well (and Oryx, and all the other brands that slap their stickers on that).
 

ZoRo

Turbo Monkey
Sep 28, 2004
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Transcend said:
wow, what a pile of scrap.
WORD...

They really look ugly, I mean better off with a M1 (or M3) with some Mongoose stickers or a "Mongoose" Turner like EC
 

Tharkun

Monkey
Nov 21, 2004
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I don't know, I think those bikes look quite good. Different, but good. I don't know much about suspension designs so I can't talk tech about the pros/cons on that particuar design. I do agree that the 1500 Single should not have Alivo parts, thats pretty sad. The double is attractive though, nice parts and a killer orange/black paint scheme. Decent price too I think. What I am wondering about is if that design is susposed to eliminate pedal bob as well as improve braking, because when I look around what I see is promises to improve braking performance, not a whole lot about improving pedaling. Doesn't look to heavy either, I think it could be a good all around freerider.
 

Tharkun

Monkey
Nov 21, 2004
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I'd love to see a good review on the Double, even if it is a MBA review. Are there any out there, I think Dirt did one and actually liked it.
 

Jorgen

Monkey
Oct 3, 2003
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Oslo, Norway
Jeez, so many guys here don't know **** about what they talk about.

First: EC rides a Turner XCE, NOT a 5spot.
Second: EC i rumoured to be riding REAL Mongoose next year, Black Diamond for DH and Teocali for 4x.

The reason for EC not too run mongoosebikes is off course that mongoose haven't had a bike for him to ride, so he rides the best, Turner :-)
Now he has been doing work with Mongoose to design and modell real bikes, better bikes for 4x, and maybe dh.

the goose-bikes are NOT URT. that's the most stupid comment I have heard at rm.com.
Since they are owned by the same company as Schwinn and GT Mongoose uses a varation of the I-drive. Pedale well, suspension is good.

I agree that the center of gravity seems high, but why don't you wait until someone really rides one to make the best comment ever "it looks flexy".
The first batch of Black Diamonds arrived here in Norway on friday and importer has one assembled as we speak. I'll try to go there and take a few pics next week.

I think it's cool to see that Mongoose wants to make better bikes, bikes that will NOT be available at wallmart.

yeh..whatever :-)
 

Tharkun

Monkey
Nov 21, 2004
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I just hope some bike stores get those bikes here in Canada, you only see Mongoose BMX in Canada. So I might not be able to get one even if I wanted to. I honestly think that the Double is one of the coolest looking bikes I have ever seen (if it had a different top tube it would be even better) and I know looks don't make a bike good, but damn.
 

Tully

Monkey
Oct 8, 2003
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Seattle, WA
Tharkun said:
I just hope some bike stores get those bikes here in Canada, you only see Mongoose BMX in Canada. So I might not be able to get one even if I wanted to. I honestly think that the Double is one of the coolest looking bikes I have ever seen (if it had a different top tube it would be even better) and I know looks don't make a bike good, but damn.
You've never been to Canadian Tire? :D
 

Tharkun

Monkey
Nov 21, 2004
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Heh, yeah I've been known to go there from time to time. That would actually be pretty wicked if they carried the Black Diamonds. I'd take it elsewhere to be serviced though.
 

Tame Ape

BUY HOPE!!!!!!!
Mar 4, 2003
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jack123 said:
they look like garbage. and the fact that they named them 'black diamond' made me lose major respect for them.
hahahah @ having respect for mongoose in the first place!
 

sirbikealot

Monkey
Sep 19, 2001
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Tharkun said:
I just hope some bike stores get those bikes here in Canada, you only see Mongoose BMX in Canada. So I might not be able to get one even if I wanted to. I honestly think that the Double is one of the coolest looking bikes I have ever seen (if it had a different top tube it would be even better) and I know looks don't make a bike good, but damn.
they are using a mass merchant distributor in quebec for 2005, which means you won't see them in any LBS, they may show up (the cheap ones) in some big box stores though
 

Spitfired

Monkey
Jun 18, 2004
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Rochester, NY
I love the paint on this one.

I tihnk it would be great to see mongoose pick things up and build a nice highend line. Look at IronHorse this year - they're really turned themselves around and have one sweet line set up for this year. There's no denying that mongoose has the facilities to make lots of good bikes - I for one would like to see them go for it.
I'm not going to put this one down just yet.
 

bballboy388

Monkey
Dec 4, 2004
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EC is suppose to be riding the team model of the black diamond this comming year check it out on there website
 

bballboy388

Monkey
Dec 4, 2004
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Tharkun said:
I'd love to see a good review on the Double, even if it is a MBA review. Are there any out there, I think Dirt did one and actually liked it.
i think the new mbaction has them in it not totally sure though