new road bike ideas

LordOpie · Jul 24, 2007

out of the three, i like the IH, but what material is the frame? I assume AL, but it doesn't actually say.

Do you get a discount on Jamis? Under a grand, they're my favorite bikes.

EDIT: It says on the frame, the IH is 6061.

MMcG · Jul 24, 2007

See if you can afford a Jamis Quest.

J-Dubs · Jul 24, 2007

Going from steel to AL on the road is not a transition I will ever make again.

luelling · Jul 24, 2007

pinkshirtphotos said:
is it really that bad? what about this carbon stuff will it absorb the road bumps?

I went from a Schwinn Fastback (stiff as hell aluminum) to a Scott CR1 (carbon fiber) and the difference was HUGE. My Schwinn beat me up on long rides, but the Scott is stiff yet not as harsh of a ride. I also had a steel XC bike...if I had the choice of al. or steel I would take steel, but if you can afford a carbon frame that would be the route to go

LordOpie · Jul 24, 2007

MMcG said:
See if you can afford a Jamis Quest.

Nice bike. Heck a 2004-2005 Jamis Satellite could be gotten for cheap. I think those years were quality steel. Bottom line components. Strip it with a complete NOS 105 9-speed set on clearance somewhere, Mavic Open Pros and you've got a $2k bike for under $1k easily.

Maybe a gentle used or NOS Quest or Eclipse for $1000.

DirtyMike · Jul 24, 2007

pinkshirtphotos said:
my ross is a steel frame, it rides so nice. maybe its not time to give up steel, how much does a new steel bike weigh nowadays im sure its less then 32lbs. so maybe this
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/07_bikes/satellite.html

I also only want 2 chain rings up front.

Orbea makes a steel frame bike that complete is sub 17 lbs. Campy group on it.

Or Bianci has a few that are sub 16 lbs with campy aslo. But your not gonna find something that light for under a grand for sure, would be more like three. Point is, that you could still get a real nice steel frame for decent money. Maybe more like 20-22 lbs for the price range your looking for, but thats still an Improvement from what your at.

LordOpie · Jul 25, 2007

Oh, I should've said this straight off...

You already know you like roadbiking, yeah?

Get professionally measured. Sure, you can do it yourself, but it really is worth the $200 to have a pro put you on a fit cycle with a watt meter and fine tune adjustments, mostly for fit, but also for efficiency.

I mean, what if the right bike for you isn't mass-produced? Then you'll know and you can go custom steel

pinkshirtphotos said:
AHH i forgot about the nos trick. hmm

i am also thinking of just rebuilding my old lugged frame. it has 27 inch tires on it now can i convert it to the 300c?

You may have to spread the rear triangle to get it to work with 9/10-speed stuff.

OGRipper · Jul 25, 2007

Not on your list, I know, but the Giant TCR carbon bikes are an incredible value. The carbon frame is going to be a lot more comfortable than aluminum - especially on longer rides - and give you a platform worthy of upgrading parts. If there is any way you can spring for one of those, do it. If not, the "Alliance" version, which is a carbon/aluminum combo, is only $1400 I believe. I ride a custom Steelman right now but my next bike will be carbon.

loco-gringo · Jul 25, 2007

A TCR C3 from 06 can be found at some shops at or under $1500. It's 105 with Truvativ Roleur compacts.

loco-gringo · Jul 26, 2007

pinkshirtphotos said:
i rode an all aluminum bike the other day. my teeth almost jumped out of my mouth what a poopy ride it has. i took it into lower ny state where the roads are nasty and it sucked. it def has to be carbon/alu or steel

I had a Masi with a carbon rear triangle. It was awfully rough and harsh. I have a Masi with 16.5 Deda steel front and a carbon rear and it kicks all ass.

Ian F · Jul 27, 2007

LordOpie said:
Oh, I should've said this straight off...

You already know you like roadbiking, yeah?

Get professionally measured. Sure, you can do it yourself, but it really is worth the $200 to have a pro put you on a fit cycle with a watt meter and fine tune adjustments, mostly for fit, but also for efficiency.

+1. Fit is the most important part of any road bike. Period.

Agree about steel, although my road frame is ti.

reflux · Jul 27, 2007

bogey said:
I had a Masi with a carbon rear triangle. It was awfully rough and harsh. I have a Masi with 16.5 Deda steel front and a carbon rear and it kicks all ass.

I've heard similar comments from friends, that alu front triangles with carbon stays doesn't significantly improve the ride. That being said, I have a n00bie question, does the material on the front end (head, top, and down tubes) affect the ride more than the rear stays? Would this explain why Can-o-ale no longer uses the carbon in the seattube of its System 6?

Thanks.

Niq1 · Jul 28, 2007

So this is not good news if you hate the big "S," but here it is:
Buy. A. Roubaix.
Find a shop that has an older 2 ring carbon Roubaix or shell out for a newer SRAM Rival compact bike. Either way you will be as happy as a pig in s*&t.
The carbon frame is flexy in the right way (vertically) and stiff in the right way (horizontally).
Coming from a mountain bike the slightly (.5 degree) relaxed geometry, tall headtube and longer wheelbase just feel right. You can still get the front end low by running negative rise on the stem, and wow. I have been in love with the bike since it came out. Yeah.

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