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New Santa Cruz V10 or Turner DHR

Which bike

  • SC V10

    Votes: 36 51.4%
  • Turner DHR

    Votes: 34 48.6%

  • Total voters
    70

Orfen

Monkey
Feb 22, 2004
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UP, michigan
I've worked very hard this summer, reason why I didn't visit RM much, and was able to save up for a new bike. My two choices are the new Mono V10 or a 04 (maybe 05) Turner DHR.

Any one here has saddle time on both?
 

Orfen

Monkey
Feb 22, 2004
259
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UP, michigan
I also read that the V10 will make you faster? 30 sec faster to be exact!

Both bikes are nice..reason why I'm asking for some feedback.
 

Orfen

Monkey
Feb 22, 2004
259
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UP, michigan
From reading on other forums about both companies, it sounds like Turner has a great reputation for having great customer service?

To be honestly, I would sacrifice some level of CS for better perfomance..if the V10 is a better bike, but SC lacks CS, so be it!

If the DHR is a better bike, well then it is best of both world :thumb:

profro: Is the Fox DH fork specially designed for the V10 and DHR?
 

Threepointtwo

Monkey
Jun 21, 2002
632
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SLC, UT
The new Fox DH is actually designed for the new Yeti, which is not mainstream and is an additional 10 seconds faster than the V10. And cool? - oh yeah, it's the coolest.
 

profro

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
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Acadian said:
When are we gonna frekkin' see pics of that new Yeti anyway?
Never.

Our Yeti team bikes next year will have a cloaking device that engages in the sunlight. So you won't even see us riding or racing them, but we'll be riding them alright. :nuts:
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
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Blah Blah and Blah
profro said:
Never.

Our Yeti team bikes next year will have a cloaking device that engages in the sunlight. So you won't even see us riding or racing them, but we'll be riding them alright. :nuts:
does is accelerate when you stop pedaling? ;)

no seriously tho...is there such a thing as a "new Yeti DH bike" for next year?

sorry to derail this thead...just curious.
 

profro

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
5,617
314
Walden Ridge
Pedaling.....pffffttt. You don't even have to pedal. You just have to think about pedaling.




Yes, there is a new DH bike. The DH9 has been out of prduction since early summer. Yeti has not made a new DH9 since. From what I know, the new bike has been riden by Milan in secrecy and maybe will debut around Interbike time. Other than it using two wheels I really don't know anything. I am worried though, I can't imagine anything being better than the current DH9. I hope it is.
 

DVNT

Turbo Monkey
Jul 16, 2004
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profro said:
Never.

Our Yeti team bikes next year will have a cloaking device that engages in the sunlight. So you won't even see us riding or racing them, but we'll be riding them alright. :nuts:

Was that what Zartan did?

The GI Joe guy i saved up all those proof of purchase thingy's for.
 

oly

skin cooker for the hive
Dec 6, 2001
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Orfen said:
pleze, can you guys stick with the original subject? :(
A while back there was a post by go-ride (i think) comparing dhr to v10 to el cuervo. Search it out. I know you say 05, but reading about 04 bikes may help you in your decision.

I have a DHR and love it, but cant speak for the V10, especially the 05 version since ive yet to see one in the real world.....
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
The new V10 has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The DHR has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The biggest difference beyond aesthetics (SC wins hands down) is the feel of the suspension. The DHR feels very lively and responsive where the V10 has a "dead" feel to it. I like the feeling of my back tire glued to the ground and really feeling nothing on the nasty stuff, but some people like the suspension feedback offered in the DHR. The rear wheel still sticks like glue, but you can kind of map better what is underneath you. Personal preference thing here. I say ride both and then decide.
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
714
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El Jefe said:
The new V10 has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The DHR has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The biggest difference beyond aesthetics (SC wins hands down) is the feel of the suspension. The DHR feels very lively and responsive where the V10 has a "dead" feel to it. I like the feeling of my back tire glued to the ground and really feeling nothing on the nasty stuff, but some people like the suspension feedback offered in the DHR. The rear wheel still sticks like glue, but you can kind of map better what is underneath you. Personal preference thing here. I say ride both and then decide.
Is it a love and hate relationship with the way the rear suspension works on the V10!! From what I’ve read and heard, most - if not all - the little nit picky (call them nit picky since overall my V10 was awesome) beefs I had with mine has been addressed. Lower CG, Shorter Wheel base, steeper head angle and lighter.

There are some situations where I definitely prefer the lively feel of the DHR – like rockgardens where you have jump lines – you know, you can just float from one rock to another? Well that is a tad bit harder to do on the V10 since the rear wheel just doesn’t want to leave the ground – you end up loosing some momentum since the rear wheel will pretty much hit/absorb anything on it’s path. On the other hand, the V10 shines in rock gardens since you can just straight line and pin it!!

The new V10 (with new aggressive angles) probably corners as good as the DHR. Where my V10 lacked (or lack of skills) is keeping momentum and exist speed. This seems to be way easier with the DHR. But again, if it’s a rock infested corner…the V10 shines!!

Since switching over to the DHR, I also noticed that when I accidentally hit a sharp rock with my rear wheel, it hits HARD – where as with the v10 you simply wouldn’t fee it at all.

With that said…I would love to try the new V10 to compare it to the old one.
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
Acadian said:
With that said…I would love to try the new V10 to compare it to the old one.
Are you going to Durango? Tahoe? I'll for sure be at one, maybe both. If you're there when I'm there, feel free to jump on mine.
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
714
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El Jefe said:
Are you going to Durango? Tahoe? I'll for sure be at one, maybe both. If you're there when I'm there, feel free to jump on mine.
Lately I barely have the luxury to leave work at a respectable time to go home :( so considering my work schedule for the next few weeks – Durango is out of the question. When will you be in Tahoe?
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
Acadian said:
Lately I barely have the luxury to leave work at a respectable time to go home :( so considering my work schedule for the next few weeks – Durango is out of the question. When will you be in Tahoe?
Sept 10-12. Maybe....still not sure.
 
Oct 1, 2001
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El Jefe said:
The new V10 has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The DHR has a great in the pocket kind of cockpit feel. It handles great, pedals great, and is lightweight.

The biggest difference beyond aesthetics (SC wins hands down) is the feel of the suspension. The DHR feels very lively and responsive where the V10 has a "dead" feel to it. I like the feeling of my back tire glued to the ground and really feeling nothing on the nasty stuff, but some people like the suspension feedback offered in the DHR. The rear wheel still sticks like glue, but you can kind of map better what is underneath you. Personal preference thing here. I say ride both and then decide.
Agreed. On a side note - Progressive changed the tuning for the 5th Element for the '05 V10's to allow the rider to set-up that more "lively" feel. I've been on the '05 shock for about 2 months and can really tell a difference between it and the '04 Progressive (I'm on a late model '04). The V10 still stays glued to the ground, but I'm able boost a little easier and pump a bit in the corners. If I had to give you a better sense on how "lively" the rear of the bike is, I would say my '04 with the '05 shock lies somewhere in between the bike with the '04 shock and a Turner.

As Acadian said above, the '05 really corrects the things that the '04 could be critized for (little heavy, long/slack and high bottom bracket). Still by far the best bike I've ever owned, but can't wait for my '05 :drool: :drool:
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
Wallstreetbiker said:
Agreed. On a side note - Progressive changed the tuning for the 5th Element for the '05 V10's to allow the rider to set-up that more "lively" feel. I've been on the '05 shock for about 2 months and can really tell a difference between it and the '04 Progressive (I'm on a late model '04). The V10 still stays glued to the ground, but I'm able boost a little easier and pump a bit in the corners. If I had to give you a better sense on how "lively" the rear of the bike is, I would say my '04 with the '05 shock lies somewhere in between the bike with the '04 shock and a Turner.

As Acadian said above, the '05 really corrects the things that the '04 could be critized for (little heavy, long/slack and high bottom bracket). Still by far the best bike I've ever owned, but can't wait for my '05 :drool: :drool:
I never went by the book on tuning anyway. If you liked the old style, you'll love your new one.
 

Lumpy_Gravy

Monkey
Sep 16, 2003
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Remember that Intense scrapped the M1 for the M3, which from my naive eye looks pretty identical to the mono-v10. (I cant wait for M3 owners to start saying that the M3 is noticeably better than the V10 and worth the extra £400.)

The fact 2 of the biggest (if not the biggest) frame manufacturers have decided on an almost identical design is enough for me. Even if it is marketing, its damn fine marketing, and it works. Also the Mono V10 is designed to have very few flat surfaces, which significantly reduces sound from the monocoque... hence its odd shape.

Respect to SC for listening and making the necessary changes to the V10
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
kidwoo said:
Thanks man. But you can't keep my turner after you get a run or two on it......I'm just warning you. :cool:
I've ridden Sgt Brown's Turner with the PUSH resorvoir shock and full team build. If that didn't sway me, I doubt yours will. :p
 

kidwoo

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El Jefe said:
I've ridden Sgt Brown's Turner with the PUSH resorvoir shock and full team build. If that didn't sway me, I doubt yours will. :p
Says you. :sneaky: My fork doesn't let the wheel go underneath the downtube on straight hits. Nah seriously, I'll be looking foreward to meeting you that weekend. I'll be slow and cautious until I'm sure my foot doesn't fall off.

Yeah you're right luc. Unfortunately bike shops carry rims only, no foot bones. :(
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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How about Chris Canfield's new custom painted F1 - he's selling it cause he's injured and has no medical insurance.

I just got this F1 and it feels awesome. The difference is huge compared to other DH bikes I've ridden. The bike is light with the build spec (43 lbs), superplush, stiff, carries speed great, and I feel less tired at the end of the day. I haven't ridden a bike yet that feels so plush and pedals so well at the same time. After riding the DHX on the Moment and hearing things from friends and others, I might consider the DHX as my main shock and use the Romic as a backup since the reliablity can be spotty (no reported issues yet though with the romics on F1 - both the Canfield Brothers switched from Manitou to Romic on their personal bikes).

Chris Canfield just broke his wrist riding his brand new custom painted racing setup (pimp components, new slider+, smaller tires etc...) and his selling his. I would guess his is around 40-41 lbs. or so? PM me or give Canfield Brothers a call. Also - watch for their booth at Interbike - they are going to have a pretty sweet lineup for 05 ;)

Luc - did your friends at Pinkbike all really dig the F1 also?
 

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