It's still a bad marketing idea and marketing sells way more bikes than engineering. Especially since most people wont notice the differance.
New Scott DH bike
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Tried measuring it useing Gimp and that gave me right below 63 degrees.
Yeah, it is more complex, not because it has "moar parts", but because it's more difficult and costly to design that configuration. I'd bet on the fact that as far as CNC, forging, 3-d shaping, etc, it is more costly to design and manufacture. I estimate 1.5 seasons tops before we see the next "new" Scott bike. For a company that makes such great ski poles, they sure make some crazy bikes. Previous generations that snapped chainstays, ultra-light long-travel with so-so suspension, etc. It's just one of those companies that I never take seriously, that I'd never buy a bike from. They change about every season and it's always some wierd whack configuration that no other manufacturer would touch.
I've got to agree with Wa-aw and Godboy; no matter how well a bike rides, how "sexy" it is has to play a large part in the purchasing decision of the average consumer (ie not a sponsored or bro-deal rider). With the purported cost of setting up the molds and tooling for a production bike - especially a carbon one, is it really worth it for a company to bring such an ugly bike to market? Especially when there's equally performing and purdier bikes to choose from. I guess only time will tell.
edited to add, after seeing those additional pics: are they going to call it the "scissor-link" (tm)
So there are people who pay retail for DH bikes?
Interesting that no one has picked up that it appears to be a really compact frame, and they've got mass centralisation nailed. Just look at the length of that seatpost! The frame's obviously tiny, as you can see from the on-track photo. Also, all adjustments look to be accessible which is always nice
Cost-wise (man eng head on here). Simple front end, fairly simple swingarm, 3/4 forged bars (can't tell if the shock mounts onto a 1 or 2-piece design) and what I'd guess to be standard bearings, don't see any reason why it should cost more than any other DH frame - so that'll be $10,000 thanks
Cost-wise (man eng head on here). Simple front end, fairly simple swingarm, 3/4 forged bars (can't tell if the shock mounts onto a 1 or 2-piece design) and what I'd guess to be standard bearings, don't see any reason why it should cost more than any other DH frame - so that'll be $10,000 thanks
Haha! Exactly what popped into my head.
"WTF is this whack thing doing. The cheques had better keep clearing."
"I've starred at this thing for 3hrs and had 6 engineers try to explain it, it still doesn't make any sense."
Needs moar seat stays.
Moar complex = moar fasterer.
Reminds a bit of Evil only I like the Scott frame better. I like the higher pivot location too.
Reminds a bit of Evil only I like the Scott frame better. I like the higher pivot location too.
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strictly from a visual standpoint I'd ride this bike before a V10 or an Intense. It still cuts classic lines of what a bicycle looks like. No curvey tubes or monocoque is just fine by me.
I bet it grows on a lot of people if Brendan starts getting some results. There's your marketing.
I bet it grows on a lot of people if Brendan starts getting some results. There's your marketing.
Looks are starting grown on me too. Looks much better on the trail. Comes off like a slopestyle/DS bike. I can imagine this would be very good frame for smaller riders. There looks to be some clearance issues with the bottom out knob on the RC4 so that tubeset is probably prototype. I bet a cheese version is being grown up!
FFS, it isn't complex.
FFS, it isn't complex.
Yeah, it isn't that bad. The only downside lookwise is that the links are a bit long and bulky compared to mainframe and swingarm.
E-riders:
Linkages push shock: Makes total sense.
Linkages pull on shock: MAGIC!
Linkages push shock: Makes total sense.
Linkages pull on shock: MAGIC!
i know people are complaining about uggo, but I think it's deceptively beautiful. Nice triangle front frame, nice solid rear swingarm, yeah the linkages are a bit excessive but the lines of that bike are really really clean, much more visually appealing than most others on the market, especially the overhydroformed demos.