[gemini2k]

Yea, where do some of these guys like Sacha White or Frank Wadelton get off? They're just slapping a couple pieces of tubing together.

Carbon's way sicker!

Ha ha ha true. Just heard from frank the other day that he puts 4 hours of WELDING ALONE into that frame. Not including machining, bending tubes, setting up jigs, etc. That frame is a steal. I almost feel bad how much I'm paying for it.