New Whip? New toys for the dependable steed?
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Well kept getting bugged about trying both.so can't lose $ on it and yeah I want to see just to see ..why not...
.Steve thinks it'll be possibly a bit too much in mid speed support...
Ordered the new Archer purple paddle remote thingy today because they have 20% off, paid $62 postage!
Rear hub turned up today, have to work out which back rim to run, I have an XM481 up front it should be strong enough for the rear me thinks.......
Rear hub turned up today, have to work out which back rim to run, I have an XM481 up front it should be strong enough for the rear me thinks.......
Soon!
Hope it's only the photo angle making it look so slack... supposed to be 64* HTA based around a 120mm fork.
Hope it's only the photo angle making it look so slack... supposed to be 64* HTA based around a 120mm fork.
That's what mine was but now it is mulleted with 130mm travel with a 62deg HA, it's still fine for most XC stuff.
EDIT- Two bottle cages, fancy!
That's what I should have bought.
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Details man, details!
Oh, thought it was evident from the pics.
Trail oriented build with a mix of parts that skew towards proven parts, with a mix of exotica (for canada) and some local products too. Partially inspired by what was available via mailorder back in March when I ordered the frame.
Nicolai Saturn 14, Medium
DVO Topaz T3 and DVO Diamond D1
DT Swiss wheels, ex471, 240
XT drivetrain and brakes, SRAM shifter
Protaper bars, Intend stem
Bikeyolk Devine dropper
North Shore Billet Daemon Pedals
Build and stealthed by yours truly
Pretty happy with how it came together. The time estimate from Nicolai was pretty on point, it was about 2.5 months order to door. Have some other parts I'll swap in once I get a good sense of this setup.
16 wasn’t out yet when I ordered this, but they do look very similar. Still would have gone 14 though in the spirit of the trail bias.
14 or 14 ST was on my short list when I was looking last year, ended up with a Smash.
It might be 54* looking at that
You sir have a good taste in bikes.
12 speed I guess?
Interesting that this combo works. What's the main benefit for you?
I like Shimano double shift and the fact that you can shift with your thumb or index to harder gear.
I seem to prefer the ergonomics of Sram shifter on the other hand as I managed to rub my thumb knuckle on Shimano....
It’s actually 11. I ordered the wrong derailleur late one night (xtr 11/12) and was informed of the err of my ways by my friend as soon as he saw the xtr. It shifts ok as is, but I’m going to replace with an xt of the right era.
I went sram because when I pulled the xt out of the package, it felt horrible… incredibly stiff. I wondered if it was broken. By comparison, every other shifter I’ve ever used (going back 30 yrs) felt dramatically better out of the box. Never mounted it and grabbed a sram… and it works fine. Could be wrong and it works completely differently or loosens up, but that’s how it went. I like how sram shifters work w/ no bs.
The shimano double-tap upshift is incredibly stiff for some reason, maybe to prevent un-wanted upshifts. But it's stiff enough it irritates my thumb and I do not find it to be "faster". Sram is like a real light short travel single-action trigger. Shimano is more like a heavy double action.
Back in the day both sram and shimano were really vague and sloppy in 10spd forms and the 1X stuff was way more "positive" and "clicky" as far as shifting and engagement. IMO, shimano carried that too far trying to compete and overcompensated in that direction.
Xt 11 speed shifter does loosen up with time but is still far from the smoothness of Sram X01
Xt shifter felt like it does when the cable is gummed up and dry. Not a great way to start imo!
Weird, must be an issue with Shimano 11 speed only (which I have never used).
I have XT and XTR 12 speed and love the feel of both of them. My son has SLX and it is good as well but lacks the double drop shift. The double shift is awesome and I always miss it when going back to 11 speed SRAM.
I have XT and XTR 12 speed and love the feel of both of them. My son has SLX and it is good as well but lacks the double drop shift. The double shift is awesome and I always miss it when going back to 11 speed SRAM.
Shimano does require more force, but it isn't a bad tactile feel IMO, still smooth with a nice positive click. I run SRAM and Shimano on my bikes and the only way I can tell the difference when actually riding is the double upshift on the Shimano. But I wouldn't notice if someone put a pea under my mattress either.
Conversely, the first thing I would do on any Sram equipped new bike is strip it, and put on XTR
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Still a masterful shred machine with strong sized wheels and 16.8 chain stays.
Once this front tire dies, will probably switch to a goldilocks mullet set up.
Once this front tire dies, will probably switch to a goldilocks mullet set up.
Tenet all the things! I had to try their compliant crabon death steering stick, and it delivers. Kinda ugly, but very comfy.
How's the fork beer can treating you?Tenet all the things! I had to try their compliant crabon death steering stick, and it delivers. Kinda ugly, but very comfy.
So well he needs a compliant handlebar.
EDIT- Is it compliant as in flexy, or does it do what you tell it?
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The best air fork experience imaginable! I dig it. Reasonable response in small chatter, good mid-stroke, willing to go deep when my neck needs saving.
Yes.
