Yeah, I've run into that air leak issue as well...suddenly completely rigid fork is...sub-optimal to say the least.
Which Grip 2 - pre or post VVC compression?
New Whip? New toys for the dependable steed?
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Which Grip 2 - pre or post VVC compression?
2020 Grip 2, so IIRC the rebound is VVC but the compression isn't?
I had to dip to my apocalypse reserves. No stickers with this order.Only factory decals?
Edit, ok I see that Avy sticker, disaster averted.
Let's say one weighs 175 lbs and has a f/r distribution of 40/60 . A 45 lbs/in spring would result in a sag of 1.55555 in whereas a 50 would net in at 1.4 in or 39.5 compared to 35.5 mm. A whopping 4 mm difference! Holy moly, I definitely would be able to feel that...
... not!
Like Steve said, cut those stupid little rings on your stanchions and live happily ever after.
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especially if you play around with more refined calculators like this one, there’s a big range in the recommendation based on your preferences
thesuspensionlab.nz
Coil Spring Calculator (Beta) — The Suspension Lab
Calculator to help estimate the appropriate coil spring for your bike
thesuspensionlab.nz
Dougal and his calculations is a bit... "special". I think he prefers to ride either super slow or super IMBA. Both are not to my likingespecially if you play around with more refined calculators like this one, there’s a big range in the recommendation based on your preferences
Coil Spring Calculator (Beta) — The Suspension Lab
Calculator to help estimate the appropriate coil spring for your bike
for me it was easy, i just got the extra firm formula spring recommended for 95kg+, there are not that many to choose from so lucky me (i weigh around that)
didn‘t bother to check sag yet. rides sweet with the golden cts, also got the blue, red and orange one to play around with in the coming weeks. setup was way easier for me than with the grip2 36 i had before. just compression and rebound, done. not much more to fiddle with than to switch the base setups with the different cts. and all in a still quite light package around 2,3 kg. weight penalty with the ext storia increased in total by just 400g ish.
didn‘t bother to check sag yet. rides sweet with the golden cts, also got the blue, red and orange one to play around with in the coming weeks. setup was way easier for me than with the grip2 36 i had before. just compression and rebound, done. not much more to fiddle with than to switch the base setups with the different cts. and all in a still quite light package around 2,3 kg. weight penalty with the ext storia increased in total by just 400g ish.
Bingo, there you go. All that matters
yep, like i remembered how coil suspension felt. dunno why i bothered with air the last two years since starting to ride a mtb again…
That link is to Jono Church not Dougal???
Jono is Suspension Lab in Rotorua
Dougal is Shockcraft in Alexandra (near Wanaka)
Want to sell?
I've owned a Smashpot with multiple springs. I could definitely feel I wanted to be in-between spring rates. Put another way, the difference between a 450 and 475 rear spring is ~5.5%, while 450 to 500 is ~11%. Most riders would notice that difference and find 25lb increments to be a net benefit. The difference between a 50 and 55lb spring in your fork is 10%.
For me this isn’t about sag affected geo, it’s about how much spring force I want.
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I will take that off of your hands if you don't want it collecting dust
Oh, my fault, mixed them up. Johnny seemed a bit more sound when he was arguing with Dougal on emptybeer.
Agreed. But what are you going to loose if you take the firmer spring at the end? Couple of mm max travel? The overall suppleness and stability of a coil is far more an improvement than using all the travels, imho
Sorry guys, keeping the Grip 2 for a little longer, will likely install it into my other 36. How about a spare RC2 damper, any interest? 
i've got a lovely grip 170mm for a 38...c'mon, you know you want it...
It's not about amount of travel, it's about feedback into my hands.
What year?Sorry guys, keeping the Grip 2 for a little longer, will likely install it into my other 36. How about a spare RC2 damper, any interest?
Report back on how that thing feels versus the Secus. Now that I think about it removing the risk of another seal leak with it wouldn't be a bad thing.
New wheel bits are in, mounted the tires for the local crap and the nice Trickstuff rotors.
Called it quits on building the bike, after dropping one of the cable guide things into the frame.
For anyone else that has done it, is there anything more fiddly and annoying than mounting the Rockshox fender on a Zeb? I've done two now and both have been a pain. Should have drilled out the holes in the fender a bit..
Called it quits on building the bike, after dropping one of the cable guide things into the frame.
For anyone else that has done it, is there anything more fiddly and annoying than mounting the Rockshox fender on a Zeb? I've done two now and both have been a pain. Should have drilled out the holes in the fender a bit..
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nice hoops
New wheel bits are in, mounted the tires for the local crap and the nice Trickstuff rotors.
Called it quits on building the bike, after dropping one of the cable guide things into the frame.
For anyone else that has done it, is there anything more fiddly and annoying than mounting the Rockshox fender on a Zeb? I've done two now and both have been a pain. Should have drilled out the holes in the fender a bit..
What shoes?
I have always had that dilema. I like how the bike behaves with firm spring for my weight, but my hands hurt when I'm not in form. I know that when I train seriously and I'm fit, my hands are ok, so i keep riding with firm spring and if my hands hurt I know my fitness is in fault, not the fork - I try to ride more and train harder (win win situation).
Into the Titan? Guess how I know...Called it quits on building the bike, after dropping one of the cable guide things into the frame.
I'd recommend to install some foam hose over the shifting, seat stay and brake lines. Makes a whole lot a rattling difference.
Took me a long time to realise that I need to leave my suspension settings alone when it feels like they're wrong and ask myself if I'm tired or unfit or just riding bad that day.
Assegai and DHR2, exo casing.
Will be using double down casing for everywhere but Ontario.
That's the one thing I haven't found yet. The rattling in my Spitfire was loud.
Oh yeah and a fender for the back.
Something like that stuff would be perfect, but yeah shipping for that will probably cost triple what it's worth.
What did you make your fender out of? I've been thinking one of those flimsy cutting boards would probably do well and not be too hard to cut.
I'm hoping to find something at a local hardware store - haven't really looked much yet, but have you ever seen anything similar @mykel ?
I wheelie, if I fall left or right I know my hips or back are out a bit...stretch and have a few things I do ahead of time...if I don't my jumping is off, my lines are not clean and I get beat up more than normal...
Same...and more often than not its my tire pressure that is either too low or high, throwing things off.
Fitting the one to my SID was fine, but I think I read something that some of the Zeb ones were slightly out of spec for the holes on the lowers making them a PITA.
I think you pretty much nailed it. We have a set of flexible cutting mats used for camping / backyards etc. They would be what I would use for a rear fender. Have not seen anything in the locals, but then again have not been looking. Here is pretty much what we have, but in an updated bike friendly colour palette. Unfortunately they are on offer by that snake oil company fronted by bald-douche-boi.
Thought so regarding shipping costs. Maybe you can find something similar over at yours.
I used something like a portfolio folder made of plastic, put some stickers on it and ran it through my wife's paper laminater with a relative tough 125 micron pouch.
If you leave the fender someplace nice and warm before installation it seems easier to wrangle it into place. Its quite stiff otherwise. I got some slightly longer screws for mine as well. The supplied ones didn't go very far into the magnesium lowers and felt like they were going to strip easily.
I accidentally something reasonable.
We'll see, would prefer something cheaper, but will be an option.
