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New Whip? New toys for the dependable steed?

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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Rebuilt the left pedal and switched to the new axles. Added old pins in because $25 for fancy pins is dumb.
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On a semi-related note, I found out a few days ago that the aluminum thingy in which the shifter bolts to for the Shimano I-Spec EV system is compatible with the SRAM brake lever mounting clamp.

I don't know if that's common knowledge or not, but I just could not believe it. Certainly an oversight in the product development process.
I did the oppsite. I mounted SRAM shifter to Shimano brake lever using the factory adapter nut thingy. It fit well, but could not adjust down enough to not hit the sifter on the master tightened up. I filed the slot bigger in the brake lever and it worked well after.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Obviously none of you were macguyer cool...I just duct tape that shit, to the bars. It goes well with my gum wrapper foil and matchstick headlight

I Can diffuse bombs, hardwire a elevator, probably fight off an alien invasion with those 2 items..
I had to jerry-rig an xt or something shifter in Bellingham on vacation when my xt brake pissed the MC and i had some kinda matchmaker on that side, brake was the one with the clamp tho and new brakes were not compatible with old match shit thing. Thats when i said, no more of this shit for me, gimme clamps every time.

Also, the no replacement parts shimano ideology was fun too…having to buy a totally new rear brake on vacation.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
I had to jerry-rig an xt or something shifter in Bellingham on vacation when my xt brake pissed the MC and i had some kinda matchmaker on that side, brake was the one with the clamp tho and new brakes were not compatible with old match shit thing. Thats when i said, no more of this shit for me, gimme clamps every time.

Also, the no replacement parts shimano ideology was fun too…having to buy a totally new rear brake on vacation.
Should have called me, I'd have brought my duct tape and gum wrapper...had you rocking trails like a boss in no time...
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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Should have called me, I'd have brought my duct tape and gum wrapper...had you rocking trails like a boss in no time...
Shout out to Fanatik bike shop for getting the bins of bolts, nuts and stuff. Wasn't optimal but I could brake and shift and ride Darrington next.
 

Mo(n)arch

Turbo Monkey
Dec 27, 2010
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Anyone have thoughts ona 2023 canyon sender.
I still have the 27,5" version. Bloody fast, stable and tough.
And it's dead silent. The 29" version should be egually good. If I was in the market for a new DH rig, I would probably go in that direction.
However, the team had to go the high pivot route to keep in touch with the rest of the crop.
Which makes the Specialized/Öhlins rigs even more elusive...

So, knowing that you come from the new Trek Slash, Session and the V10, I'd probably stay in HP/VP department.
 
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Right now with Banshee having that great sale, I've been eyeballing a Legend. That bike has always intrigued me but at that price its hard to say no.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Edit: Probably not since it's the E4.

I'm running a 220 2.0 rotor on the front of my E4 bike, 203 out rear. It's pretty good, not quite the level of my V4, but pretty good. It's amazing how much difference the T4 levers make on ALL hope brakes though. It even turns my X2s into great brakes on my hardtail fatbike and I was able to downsize to a 180mm rotor with plenty of power for that kind of riding. Previously on that bike I needed a 203 and basically had to "over-rotor" the T3 levers to get any kind of power.

I highly recommend a 220 front though on the E4, I was running the E4/T4 combo on some 203s last summer and was able to still smoke them on steep DHs when I was using my backup enduro bike (fatbike with summer wheels). I wasn't able to smoke the V4s with the bigger rotors either.

Those rotors would look tits on my bike tho...

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bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Agreed on all fronts...got e4 on nomad v4 on v10 and this is going on the slash..

All 3 bikes have galfer 2mm 223 front 203 rear...green pads rear purple front.

Yeah the levers are great, easy to 1 finger hook.

Yeah these are tiny rotors... unfortunately, 160mm..lol didn't know they still existed.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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Agreed on all fronts...got e4 on nomad v4 on v10 and this is going on the slash..

All 3 bikes have galfer 2mm 223 front 203 rear...green pads rear purple front.

Yeah the levers are great, easy to 1 finger hook.

Yeah these are tiny rotors... unfortunately, 160mm..lol didn't know they still existed.
Hope lagged quite a bit with the "bigger rotor/moar power" recent movement. I remember when they came out with the V4s and they also came out with that vented rotor for it in 203, but they kind of went "quiet" for a long time, never making a bigger vented or floating rotor for their brakes...it was just odd that Hope didn't react earlier. Only very recently did they make the 3.3 vented rotor available in a modern size, 220. A bit pricey, but I figured what the hell. So far on the crazy steeps, no issues, great fade resistance. I'm curious if the E4s can do 2.3 comfortably. They say they can on the site, but the 2.0 I'm using seems very tight. Either that or maybe they changed up the caliper a bit recently.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Hope lagged quite a bit with the "bigger rotor/moar power" recent movement. I remember when they came out with the V4s and they also came out with that vented rotor for it in 203, but they kind of went "quiet" for a long time, never making a bigger vented or floating rotor for their brakes...it was just odd that Hope didn't react earlier. Only very recently did they make the 3.3 vented rotor available in a modern size, 220. A bit pricey, but I figured what the hell. So far on the crazy steeps, no issues, great fade resistance. I'm curious if the E4s can do 2.3 comfortably. They say they can on the site, but the 2.0 I'm using seems very tight. Either that or maybe they changed up the caliper a bit recently.
Yeah new one I'll find out the older one and older v4 both are tight with 2mm rotors...i had no idea they went to 3.3 I'm going to have to look now...
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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@Jm_ damn those rotors 3.3 are expensive even cost is a chunk...
I'll just throw a stick in my front wheel it's free .
Yeah, but they had me laughing out loud going down continuous 50% grade! Because-control. That said, TRP 2.3 is probably fine too.

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bullcrew

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Yeah, but they had me laughing out loud going down continuous 50% grade! Because-control. That said, TRP 2.3 is probably fine too.

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Ok...now I need to see about getting a set for the DH bike and getting the 3.3 rotors ..bigger hammer mentality...thanks asshole for tempting me to bleed my wallet some more...lol

Thing is I know your right , I know the base behind fade and draw....I just didn't know they offered a 3.3mm rotor...and floating so heat dissipation and centering..

Did you have to use hope adapters to avoid rivet strike on brake adapters ?
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Ok...now I need to see about getting a set for the DH bike and getting the 3.3 rotors ..bigger hammer mentality...thanks asshole for tempting me to bleed my wallet some more...lol

Thing is I know your right , I know the base behind fade and draw....I just didn't know they offered a 3.3mm rotor...and floating so heat dissipation and centering..

Did you have to use hope adapters to avoid rivet strike on brake adapters ?
Using a Formula adapter that curves around the caliper nicely. Being 220 kind of frees you up for more adapters, since it's just a +20 or +40 depending on your mount. But the wheel is not boost and uses the 5mm spacers on each side, so that may cause the hub flanges to be narrower and avoid that problem. I remember having it a long time ago with something like Hope MonoM4s or something and the Hope floating rotors. I don't really think the floating rotors are necessary, but I definitely want the heat-sink/capacity of more metal on the braking track and whatever else can help with heat capacity and dissipation, so these seem to tick the box. I would still fry the old 203mm icetech rotors on these kind of trails. T4 levers and either 2.3 or 3.3 rotors really seems to have been a home-run. And really, just the T4 lever in the front is what really matters IMO, I left the rears as T3s so they aren't as powerful, but they don't need to be, they just need to dissipate a shitload of heat too (not as much as the front).

Trail in question...and so nice to be able to do it in control, especially knowing other riders are just death-gripping and basically out of control/crashing: https://www.trailforks.com/trails/steeze-grater/
 
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toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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@Jm_ damn those rotors 3.3 are expensive even cost is a chunk...
I'll just throw a stick in my front wheel it's free .
I got one of those vented Hope rotors hanging on the garage wall. Its crazy heavy. It was thrown in with some second hand T3 V4s I bought but I've never run it. Always wondered if Hopes would feel different given the V4 caliper was designed to take a 3.3mm thick rotor.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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I have a vented Hope rotor from 08/09.

I don't see how a thicker rotor should change the feel of a brake, piston roll back will be the same unless you end up with some drag.....?

I guess with a thinner rotor you get more fluid in the caliper and it might expand a touch as it's heated.
 

Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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I don't see how a thicker rotor should change the feel of a brake, piston roll back will be the same
Not all pistons "can" reset back as far with a thicker rotor
Hope calipers can. flipside being their penchant for needing a horrendously laborious bleed procedure.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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Not all pistons "can" reset back as far with a thicker rotor
Hope calipers can. flipside being their penchant for needing a horrendously laborious bleed procedure.
At least they hold a bleed once you get a good one (looking at you, Shimano).

But yeah, they're a pain in the ass to bleed. I'm chasing a little bubble in a T4 V4 right now...
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
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Yakistan
I guess I over filled my brakes because I couldn't get the new pads in. We used a piston lever to push the pistons back and this bunghole on the end of the lever sprayed oil out like a cat marking its territory. The pads went in and everything seems to be working properly. I did not know Shimano levers had a check valve??