New Whip? New toys for the dependable steed?
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660 bearing retainer
Removed the Runt and B1 Airspring.
Built this up - Vorsprung Smashpot coil conversion.
No stock RockShox internals.
Avalanche Cartridge and Smashpot
Yarilanche / Avysprung / Voralanche / Frankenfork....
Whatever you want to call it.
Driveway and curb bashing test was smile inducing.
Now I just have to wait out this tendonitis in my elbow to be able to test it in anger.
Full bike weight according to my feedback sports scale - Large Knolly Fugitive - Full Coil comes in at 33.04 lbs.
* Cross posted to my Trail-bike build thread in XC/AM/Trail forum.
Built this up - Vorsprung Smashpot coil conversion.
No stock RockShox internals.
Avalanche Cartridge and Smashpot
Yarilanche / Avysprung / Voralanche / Frankenfork....
Whatever you want to call it.
Driveway and curb bashing test was smile inducing.
Now I just have to wait out this tendonitis in my elbow to be able to test it in anger.
Full bike weight according to my feedback sports scale - Large Knolly Fugitive - Full Coil comes in at 33.04 lbs.
* Cross posted to my Trail-bike build thread in XC/AM/Trail forum.
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You will love it. I just moved mine to my second '19 36 and it it's simply superior in all aspects but weight.
IS THAT @Pesqueeb's BIKE???Smashy. Just need to swap in the HC97 and get in a shakedown ride.
Is my fatbike with a 2nd wheelset, doubling duty as a hardtail.
Kona Wozo with a 120mm Bluto and a -2* Works headset. Spends more time that way than it does with the full fat wheels.
Slower than my other bikes, but still stupid amounts of fun. Especially when conditions get...slippy.
I put some time on my one up bars on the dh bike last week and this weekend.
Vastly more comfterable than renthal carbon fat bars.....
Vastly more comfterable than renthal carbon fat bars.....
Interesting that 29+ fits, I don't think I've ever stood my 29er next to my wozo.
Plenty of room all around, at least in the Bluto. Various rigid forks maybe not.
what rim is that?New rim for the rear wheel is finished. Dropped it off on Sunday and in typical fashion, the wheel builder said it'll be done on Thursday probably. He messaged Monday and said it was done. Free beer for him!
Didn't bother with an insert this time.
How's the smashpot working for you? I have a Luftkappe on my Pike, and since installing it, I don't get anywhere near full travel. I'm leaving about 2.5" on the table... Feels like I've cut my nose off to spite my face. Feels like about 1/2 way through the travel I'm hitting a wall. I was wondering if the DSD runt would allow me to eke out a bit more travel. But maybe Smashpot is the way to go? What prompted the switch for you?
this isn't a response to your post per se; I just picked it caus' it seems like the most recent that's relevant to my question...
I recently went to wider rims (i30 from i26). It's been about 2 months now. I feel like I can't lower the pressure because if I do I'm getting increased rim strikes. If I go up in tire size (currently on a 2.3 DHR2 DD), I'm think the situation would be the same. The way I see it, a tire is undamped suspension. Increasing tire width amounts to increasing the (air) spring size. This in turn makes initial stroke softer, but the down side is it blows through it's travel with less force. Am I reading this correctly? At $100 a tire, I don't feel like upsizing my tires just to find out it's not going to work for me...
I dig the Smashpot. The adjustable HBO works as advertised. The only downside is weight. Mine came to ~600 grams heavier than the air spring it replaced without accounting for the additional oil.
That would be really close in weight to a boxxer ultimate...
I'm no expert, but not getting the last 2.5" on a Pike sounds all kinds of wrong. Like there's too much oil in the damper, or something wasn't put together in the right order.
I plan on trying out Secus; sounds promising.
Disclaimer
I am a coil fan.
I have never gotten along with air very well. The only exception to that was the Mattoc on my last trailbike with an IRT upgrade. It took some faffing about, but I was able to get along with it eventually. My main beef is what everybody else seems to like - poppy. To me this is just uncontrolled rebound kick-back and I have never gotten along with it especially deep into the stroke.
Runt: ( 2019 150mm Lyric/Yari - B1 airspring)
Like the IRT you are able to really play with the springrate. You can get a nice supple beginning and a supportive midstroke. The ramp-up at end of stroke felt ok, I could get almost full travel, and do not ever remember bottoming it - always seemed to have 15 or so mm left. My problem came when using a lot of travel and the way it would kick back, almost felt like too many tokens.
It is supposed to be equivalent to a single token, but seems to feel like more, especially when you get the beginning and mid sorted.
Back to back, Runt, and stock including playing with tokens...
The Runt was superior in all respects except or deep stroke ramp and kickback.
The stock airspring was better for end of stroke ramp and kick, but sucked hard with no midstroke when getting an equivalent beginning suppleness. Playing with tokens, you get a harsher beginning, a decent mid, and a hard ramp / kick at the end.
Smashpot
Due to the tendonitis in my elbow, I have not ridden this thing hard. Just curb smashing and rail-trail with a couple of easy booters thrown in. Basically I'm trying to limit elbow movement.
My limited Initial impressions are good. No more airspring suckdown, and it is very supple off of the top. It sags about 5-7mm under its own weight. Much better over washboard ripple / chatter / small roots. Midstroke seems supportive, but so far no steeps or aggression, so I will hold my comment. I have not gotten close to having to play with the HBO yet, so again no comment. My so far limited experience with it being deep into the travel - no hard kick, now nice and calm with a typical coil feel.
I think I guessed correct on coil weight, but will have to see how it is when I'm back up to speed.
So far, very happy and having a hard time waiting to heal, as I want to play with this thing in anger.
Tairin out of BC. https://www.tairinwheels.ca/
Honestly don't know much about them other than they have a pretty thick rim flange. My wheel builder guy suggested it so I went with it.
Will try it now this weekend in bromont, assuming shit doesn't get shut down.
Fingers crossed
Saved my ass last week, forgot to Loctite a sleeve before fitting it, out comes the 290 hahaha!
I'm gonna buy some Vibra-Tite VC3 for the cap screws on my bike, wondering if it will mean I can torque a bolt accurately with retaining compound on it? Having to clean Loctite off each time and reapplying sucks.
Sounds like it would be good on bb shell threads, it seals and may keep the clicking noise of neglect away.
replaced my $450 float x2 with a trashpicked Roco RC because why not? Need to check for resi clearance but I think we're going to be OK.
Your stem spacers are a little wonky.
replaced my $450 float x2 with a trashpicked Roco RC because why not? Need to check for resi clearance but I think we're going to be OK.
I keep a lot on there because the HT is 95mm long...if I chop it flush, I kill my resale value.
I can't buy a used fork because I need about 9" of steerer, I wish more people kept their forks as lung puncturers.
Did you check where the channel between top tread and cornering knobs of your tire is in relation to your rim edges? On a narrow rim it is underneath your center knobs, when the rim becomes wider it is directly under the channel, so more exposed to rim strikes. So buy the right tire for your rim or vice versa.
I mean the logos aren't lined up and the top spacer looks off center.
You were right. Not sure how that passed qc, but I swapped it with a bigger carbon spacer. The top spacer was off center and misaligned. Now it's on center and misaligned.I mean the logos aren't lined up and the top spacer looks off center.
I got a new 40 and the new X2 air to try out today. I’ve been running Ohlins all summer so it‘s cool to change it up. I put 29 wheels back on her because it’s so wet right now I think it’ll help stabilise the bike and give me more chances for survival.
I have to say that I think the new Gambler is so good looking--no idea why it stands out from many other bikes with fairly similar form factor but damn every one I see looks amazing.
In to hear the Fox vs Ohlins comparison! Seeing the specialized boys hovering over the gnar has me Ohlins curious.
Why?, that's the creaky-part of the fork. It's never going to work out in the long term anyway
I honestly wonder how much customization has gone into their suspensions? Not that I think öhlins is bad, just that I have a hard time believing that they run 100% stock products...
It has to be partly the rider too. Look how composed Loic looks, most of the time. Compared to Finn who ping pongs off random stuff.I honestly wonder how much customization has gone into their suspensions? Not that I think öhlins is bad, just that I have a hard time believing that they run 100% stock products...
Right time right place just got this snow bike for sixfiddy fat hater or not riding a bike outside is still riding a bike outside
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Can't resist...putting in a pre-order for a Norco Shore frame. I've always wanted a bike with full DH geometry/travel with a pedal-able seatpost position.
No doubt you’re right. Also BuckoW is 5 times the rider I am so his thoughts are irrelevant to my experience. I am still curious because needless upgrade musings are all I have left of DH for about 6 months now...I honestly wonder how much customization has gone into their suspensions? Not that I think öhlins is bad, just that I have a hard time believing that they run 100% stock products...