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They actually live there and own the houses.
CG mentioned that he earns a bout 100.000€ per year.
Semenuk, well he's sponsored by Trek, TLD, etnies and RedBull and has won the FMB world tour two times in a row.
That dude earns a lot of money for sure
 
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I suppose, but DH definitely has that "bro-BRAH" mentality, and I don't think Gwin was changing that much. There are still plenty of both DH riders who smoke pot in the parking lot, and super-aggro "is that all you spent" matching jammy types. The friendly, welcoming locals are somewhat fewer. Peat gets a massive amount of coverage, and he's kind of a prick.

I remember there being a problem with Nico back in the day. Nobody would hire him because if he stopped being so dominant on their bike, it would look horrible for their brand. I find that hard to believe, but it was a rumor. That's why he rode his own bike for a couple years (and continued to win on it).
What? He is super friendly towards the fans. He just has some opinions and laughs at what he thinks is funny. Your comment makes him look like he is Kovarik after a crate of beers.

Also sorry but you have to be a marketable person. Results are one thing but if you have personality it is just easier to sell because it's easier to cheer for the cool guy who seems like someone you could drink beer with than a wallflower wunderkind that only speaks to Jesus. I have respect for all the quiet guys but don't forget this is business and what you are is basicly a fast moving billboard for your sponsors.

As for ppl - I don't see a drop in friendly locals. It's probably a local thing.
 
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Well, yes, that sort of came across, but I'm still interested in what kind of money they make.

And I'm not sure cars such as the CG racing van counts, as I'm guessing that car belongs to the team i.e. being financed by sponsors and CG gets to use it.

Hell, if I didn't have to pay for my bikes or my trips then I could probably afford an RS4. I'm talking about cars like Jon Ohlssons (freeride skiier) crazy winter drive lambos. Do they own the manisons they live in? (Like the one in Life behind Bars or an old vid where CG gives the full Cribs-tour of some villa in the alps) or are they just provided by the teams as well?
don't forget, CG has been racing world cups since elastomer forks and 54t chainrings - before most of us even started riding.
 

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i just got off the phone with my super secret inside source, who told me that gwin left because whitely kept stealing his lunch money
 

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What? He is super friendly towards the fans. He just has some opinions and laughs at what he thinks is funny. Your comment makes him look like he is Kovarik after a crate of beers.

Also sorry but you have to be a marketable person. Results are one thing but if you have personality it is just easier to sell because it's easier to cheer for the cool guy who seems like someone you could drink beer with than a wallflower wunderkind that only speaks to Jesus. I have respect for all the quiet guys but don't forget this is business and what you are is basicly a fast moving billboard for your sponsors.

As for ppl - I don't see a drop in friendly locals. It's probably a local thing.
He's always been a driving force behind sport-wide toolbaggery. Skinsuits, helmet visors...but people love him because he's a character. I agree that characters sell, which is why cedric still gets paid, why people cared about palmer, why people love to hate Lopes. I don't really get the character behind gwin, but that's just me.

i just got off the phone with my super secret inside source, who told me that gwin left because whitely kept stealing his lunch money
Specialized has their own free cafeteria. And reach-around thursdays!
 

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Yeah, now that you mention it, those FMB checks did always look pretty hefty. I guess you need a lot of paper to accomodate all those zeros..

But that money must be REALLY centralized around a few people, right? I mean price money is one thing, but the actual salary from the teams as well, since the guys I've met who are regular contenders for top 20 to 30 in WCs (but are not part of big factory teams, mind you) aren't really loaded. But then again, I guess that goes for most sports, the combined earnings of the top 10 riders is larger than number 11 to 30..

And yeah, CG is old as school itself. He was the first name I ever knew in mountainbiking, and the one whos style got me into riding downhill. I've got soooo much respect for that old pervert.
 

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He's always been a driving force behind sport-wide toolbaggery. Skinsuits, helmet visors...but people love him because he's a character. I agree that characters sell, which is why cedric still gets paid, why people cared about palmer, why people love to hate Lopes. I don't really get the character behind gwin, but that's just me.



Specialized has their own free cafeteria. And reach-around thursdays!
I don't like his views but what's the problem with him having specific ideas about how the sport should look like? It may not be what Jesus would do but it's not like I miss the no visor and skinsuit trends. People love him because he is friendly or to those who haven't met him he seems like it
 

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I don't like his views but what's the problem with him having specific ideas about how the sport should look like? It may not be what Jesus would do but it's not like I miss the no visor and skinsuit trends. People love him because he is friendly or to those who haven't met him he seems like it
sorry but any professional athlete that puts fashion before performance goes into a certain category for me, regardless of whether it's changed the sport for the better.
 

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sorry but any professional athlete that puts fashion before performance goes into a certain category for me, regardless of whether it's changed the sport for the better.
Thinking like that is what once almost killed snowboard in yurp (the performance nerdism). Also he still trains. He just wanted unified rules and setup. Formula 1 and WRC have them and no one complains. Imho prominent athletes should want to make the sport better, not only have better results. The sport is about people, not about who can build a better man robot. If that's the case for you would have loved DDR before the wall collapsed ;)
 

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sorry but any professional athlete that puts fashion before performance goes into a certain category for me, regardless of whether it's changed the sport for the better.
FFS Sandy Andy give it up. You hate moto pants, we get it. Should we revert back to camo pants and jeans just so you'll stfu?
 

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Yeah, now that you mention it, those FMB checks did always look pretty hefty. I guess you need a lot of paper to accomodate all those zeros..

But that money must be REALLY centralized around a few people, right? I mean price money is one thing, but the actual salary from the teams as well, since the guys I've met who are regular contenders for top 20 to 30 in WCs (but are not part of big factory teams, mind you) aren't really loaded. But then again, I guess that goes for most sports, the combined earnings of the top 10 riders is larger than number 11 to 30..

And yeah, CG is old as school itself. He was the first name I ever knew in mountainbiking, and the one whos style got me into riding downhill. I've got soooo much respect for that old pervert.
This.
The top guys earn the money. And they have to be somewhat of a character, to be marketed well.
This puts the price up. Add a bit of a businessman and you have a successful rider.

Simmons mentioned once, that he was still wearing a broken helmet because he hadn't the money to buy a new one, while Schley was already driving a Porsche all because Schley spent more time marketing himself.
 

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FFS Sandy Andy give it up. You hate moto pants, we get it. Should we revert back to camo pants and jeans just so you'll stfu?
I must be honest. I bought TLD PJ's when I noticed there are more moto gear haters now than moto gear users. Buy the most outrageous, brightest gear possible and watch exploding heads in the lift line.
 

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This.
Simmons mentioned once, that he was still wearing a broken helmet because he hadn't the money to buy a new one, while Schley was already driving a Porsche all because Schley spent more time marketing himself.
Yup, because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters to sponsors is exposure and marketability. They don't care about winning races, they care about pitching gear. Winning races is a means to an end.

This is also my dilemma on the skinsuit thing. While I find it terribly silly for a sport that is all about getting down in the fastest time, I can see the sponsors pulling out of it because they won't be selling full body condoms to the weekend warriors or guys who ride for sh*ts and giggles (except the guys on Demos, obviously. They'll buy anything the ProBros got, becuase that's factory. Bro.). And if there are no sponsors, there is no racing. Period.
 
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sorry but any professional athlete that puts fashion before performance goes into a certain category for me, regardless of whether it's changed the sport for the better.
Royal would not be losing Gwin to TLD over skinsuits. You've been pushing your anti-fashion agenda for years, to the point where I wonder if you care about it more than the guys you make fun of. Simply put it makes good business sense for the riders to be wearing what their sponsors sell. End of story really
 

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I must be honest. I bought TLD PJ's when I noticed there are more moto gear haters now than moto gear users. Buy the most outrageous, brightest gear possible and watch exploding heads in the lift line.

I used to think it was silly too. Then I actually tried them. Haven't looked back.
 

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FFS Sandy Andy give it up. You hate moto pants, we get it. Should we revert back to camo pants and jeans just so you'll stfu?
I don't want to turn this into a skinsuit discussion, I just don't like professional athletes mouthing off about what they think other people should wear, and he was the loudest. It reminded me quite a bit that one BMX rider who tried to ban people from wearing visors on their moto lids in the vert ramp because it didn't look cool, even though it allowed riders to actually see what they were doing better.

Still, everybody loves him for it and that makes you want to ride his bikes, which makes sponsors happy. Seems like most people here actually don't like Gwin because something about Jesus? Or is that just the pretentious euro thing going on?
 

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Just let it go already dude. You sound like an old curmudgeon complaining about kids and their loud music.
 
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Just let it go already dude. You sound like an old curmudgeon complaining about kids and their loud music.
I am an old curmudgeon. Sorry, just my opinion. If you don't like hearing it, feel free to go do something other than discuss opinions on a mountain bike forum.
 

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Still, everybody loves him for it and that makes you want to ride his bikes, which makes sponsors happy. Seems like most people here actually don't like Gwin because something about Jesus? Or is that just the pretentious euro thing going on?
You really should read about the difference between a correlation and causality.
 

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Your fashion sense is bad and you should feel bad
i do feel bad. I also own moto pants. Generally also said I have an agenda, which makes it sound like people listen to me, which is really kind of funny.

You really should read about the difference between a correlation and causality.
every loves him regardless of it? because everyone loves him, he can go off on diatribes about standardized fashion and everybody will gladly embrace it? Does that make you feel better?
 
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it was mentionned earlier (though maybe not on this particular thread), that CG also owns and runs a real-estate company. I'm sure that in Andorra, that can rake in significant amounts of cash. Also, CG is known for being excellent attracting sponsorship money, because they see a very high ROI with him.
 

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every loves him regardless of it? because everyone loves him, he can go off on diatribes about standardized fashion and everybody will gladly embrace it? Does that make you feel better?
Did you accidentaly sit on your nut while roaming RM? Because you are cranky today. Everyone loves him but that doesn't mean we share his views. I'm a fan, I see his view now since I work in marketing but at the time I didn't care about the whole debate. Most of the anti skinsuit crowd had that opinion peaty said anything.

No one did embrace it in the same way no one did embrace beer because peaty likes it.
 

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anyway, apparently gwin is on a pretty strict diet of baby food, and wants to eat steak again, and specialized is going to help him with that. And M.W. was stealing his lunch money.
 

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i do feel bad. I also own moto pants. Generally also said I have an agenda, which makes it sound like people listen to me, which is really kind of funny.



every loves him regardless of it? because everyone loves him, he can go off on diatribes about standardized fashion and everybody will gladly embrace it? Does that make you feel better?
You can't have his pj's but you can have his bike...

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1253729/
 

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There has been a lot of speculation about why Hill left and Gwin has joined Specialized but I have some inside information that may clear things up.

2 years ago, Specialized had brought Sam Hill and his girlfriend to the Leogang WC for some PR. At the time TWR and Specialized were sharing the same hotel and this seems to be where this whole thing stems from.

After the race, that Gwin dominated with a 3+ second margin of victory, Specialized team manager, Heimdal, escorted Sam Hill's girlfriend back to the hotel Lobby where she was to wait in the bar to meet up with Sam later in the afternoon.

Apparently in the podium celebration, Gee who was runner up, covered Gwin in champagne resulting in alchohol touching his virgin lips and ultimately finding its way into his bloodstream and unleashing a side of Gwin never before seen. He quickly became loud, beligerant and was starting to stir things up with UCI officials over skin suits and flat pedals. Whitely quickly gathered him up and drove him back to the hotel, all the while Gwin was hanging out the window of the team van screaming "I am the king of the world...I am the second comming!!!"

Once they arrived back at the hotel, Gwin insisted on grabbing one more glass of the delicious elixer that he had tasted earlier at the awards ceremony and that is when Hill's girlfriend grabbed his eye. Gwin began to speak with her an soon was insisting that she come back to his room with him. At this point Whitely began to see a golden opportunity to manuever for some major head games with the Speciailzed squad, what he didn't forsee is what soon followed.

Almost Before Whitely could could get the team camera rolling, Gwin had undressed himself and Sam's sultry little girlfriend and was riding her dirty with more ferocity than he had displayed in his previous winning run, all the while he was continuing to scream and yell...and Whitely had it all on tape.

This tape soon found it's way into Sam Hill's hands and as you may guess, he was furious. Specialized payed Sam a major bonus it hopes of smoothing things over but he has been fuming and has blamed Heimdal for leaving his girlfriend ever since.

This all came to a head in the last year as Sam's girlfriend gave birth to a bastard child that everybody believed to be that of Sam Hill, but as the boy has aged the truth has become more evident...a hint of ginger can be seen in the young boys hair! Sam was obviously outraged and embarassed and consequently has left Specialized in what was thought to be the most shocking move of the off season.

Meanwhile, Gwin has been increasignly uphappy with his contract and demanding more money But Whitely holds the ultimate card in the Sex tape that only he and Sam Hill have seen. Whitely began threatening Gwin with the tape and claiming that he would release the tape if Gwin didn't fall in line.

At the loss of Hill, Specialized was left suddenly high and dry and decided to make the ultimate counter move to Trek's on going head games. They have offered Gwin a contract at 5X what he was making with Trek and to sweeten the deal, the have gotten the Pope himself to absolve Gwin of his sins. The deal was done..Gwin was unable to resist.

Now I may not be an industry insider, but I can assure you that all this is fact and really makes perfect sense when you put it all together.
 
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