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Newt Gingrich = Wtf

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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First off, who names their son Newt?


Secondly... listen to this NPR report.

http://www.publicradio.org/tools/media/player/marketplace/morning_report/2006/10/04_mktmorn0450?start=00:00:05:05.0&end=00:00:08:17.0






TEXT OF COMMENTARY

SCOTT JAGOW: Almost every day, we could tell you some new thing Wal-Mart is up to. This week, we found out the retailer may push for a cheaper, more flexible workforce. It wants to cap wages and boost part-time employment. Before that, Wal-Mart announced a plan to offer low-cost prescription drugs. And the company doesn't shy away from politics either. Last week, it started handing out voter registration cards to workers. Commentator Newt Gingrich weighs in on that.
NEWT GINGRICH: Why shouldn't Wal-Mart help its employees register to vote? After all, it's been helpful in so many other ways.

Government has been trying for years to help Americans afford prescription drugs. But Wal-Mart's huge economies of scale enable it to offer a one month's supply of generics for as little as $4.

Government gives away billions of dollars in foreign aid every year, not all of it reaching the people it was intended for because of corruption.

But Wal-Mart lifts about 38,000 Chinese out of poverty every month by buying the $23 billion in Chinese goods they make every year for export.

Uncle Sam offers low-income Americans over $28 billion in food stamps each year. But it's Wal-Mart that saves its customers over $200 billion a year by offering lower-priced, higher quality goods.

The fact is, Wal-Mart improves the quality of life for 180 million Americans each week at lower cost. Free choice and free markets help consumers and Wal-Mart proves it.

Now it's offering one more tool for empowerment. It's educating employees on candidates and whether the positions they take are pro-jobs.

Research by the Business Institute for Political Analysis, an industry-supported group, shows that employers are one of the most trusted sources of political information for their workers.

The Institute supports pro-business Congressional candidates. That's something employees can understand. Their livelihood depends on pro-business policies.

Of course, how employees decide to vote is completely up to them.

Wal-Mart is providing every employee with a voter registration form and postage. And they're giving out the League of Women Voters' pamphlet on how to make sure your vote counts on Election Day.

Who knows, if Wal-Mart is successful it might just register the very voters that could put failing bureaucracies and inefficient federal agencies out of business.

JAGOW: Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House from 1995 to 1999. Share your thoughts with us. Log onto our website, marketplace.org and send us an e-mail. In Los Angeles, I'm Scott Jagow. Thanks for joining us and have a great day.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
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Oh no its evil Wal Mart. They are taking over the world. What are we going to do? Help me Jesus. Help me Jesus. From the evil Wal Mart.
Actually I shop at Walmart, I know all the stuff there is made in China and I still shop there I'm totally at fault for supporting them.

HOWEVER, I love how he makes them sound like they are here to save our world.
 

stosh

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I always have great respect for a man who divorces his wife on her deathbed and then sucks the dick of corruption.
When I heard this report today I was thinking "WTF why have I been hearing about Newt so much lately?"

Is it just me or is "The Newt" back in the spotlight again?
 

DRB

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Actually I shop at Walmart, I know all the stuff there is made in China and I still shop there I'm totally at fault for supporting them.

HOWEVER, I love how he makes them sound like they are here to save our world.
Oh I wasn't taking a shot at you.... okay maybe a little..... but I just find it weird how worked up people get about WalMart. My assistant will have absolutely have nothing to do with it and she gets all nuts about it anytime it comes up. I think I'm going to forward her the link.

Though it is funny how they are portrayed as your buddy in the article.
 

BurlyShirley

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Actually I shop at Walmart, I know all the stuff there is made in China and I still shop there I'm totally at fault for supporting them.

HOWEVER, I love how he makes them sound like they are here to save our world.
Like it or not, Wal Mart actually does quite a bit to improve the lives of lower income Americans. They are the nations largest employer and they offer alot of products cheaply that otherwise wouldnt be affordable to poor people. Especially in rural areas, Wal Mart can support entire communities.

Granted, they could improve by offering health insurance, etc... but if these people didnt have their low paying jobs, they'd have no jobs.
 

kinghami3

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Ballard 4 life.
I have no idea what newt is doing lately, but when I think of the epitome of everything I hate about politicians, I think of him. I wonder how much he gets paid by Walmart to spew out that crap?
 

stosh

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Some great quotes

"Wal-Mart lifts about 38,000 Chinese out of poverty"
Um... thats like .000000001% of the entire population of China.

Fact as stated by Scott J
"This week, we found out the retailer may push for a cheaper, more flexible workforce. It wants to cap wages and boost part-time employment."
This is to save money and keep US workers from gaining benefits etc.


But Newt Says
"Wal-Mart improves the quality of life for 180 million Americans each week at lower cost."
 

kidwoo

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Like it or not, Wal Mart actually does quite a bit to improve the lives of lower income Americans. They are the nations largest employer and they offer alot of products cheaply that otherwise wouldnt be affordable to poor people. Especially in rural areas, Wal Mart can support entire communities.

Granted, they could improve by offering health insurance, etc... but if these people didnt have their low paying jobs, they'd have no jobs.
Remember before walmart when poor people had no furniture, no jobs and there were no small communities?:bonk:

What they foster is crap. Crap products, crap lifestyle and for the most part crappy employment. Given I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who willingly put up with working there but it's certainly no uplifting beacon of the community.
 

BurlyShirley

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Remember before walmart when poor people had no furniture, no jobs and there were no small communities?:bonk:
Yes, actually, I lived in one. There was furniture of course, but Wal Mart created I think several hundred jobs out of nowhere. These jobs benefited every other business in this small town by bringing in money to people who just sat around and collected welfare before. Maybe everything's so easy to understand from up in Tahoe, but in Dickson Tn. there wasnt **** else going on.
 
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Sure, Newt's a 'tard.

But how can anyone say that W-M helping their employees to register to vote and encouraging them to vote is a bad thing?

Seriously?

Also, how is providing prescription medicine at lower prices a bad thing?
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
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Sure, Newt's a 'tard.

But how can anyone say that W-M helping their employees to register to vote and encouraging them to vote is a bad thing?

Seriously?

Also, how is providing prescription medicine at lower prices a bad thing?
It's a bad thing they are registering them to vote because of this reason that Newt states
"Research by the Business Institute for Political Analysis, an industry-supported group, shows that employers are one of the most trusted sources of political information for their workers."

It's obvious they intend to herd these cattle just like the Rep's herded the white christian fundamentalists. If people aren't already signed up to vote chances are they also aren't informed. So.... walmarts signs them up to vote and informs them. You do the math...



I got nothing on the lower cost perscription drugs.
 

Biscuit

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Feb 12, 2003
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Funny.. I heard another "public" radio station bagging on NPR yesterday for being as bad as FOX. I didn't get it at the time, this kinda makes sense.

But this seems like such a one sided public relations spin. I'm not anti wal-mart, but still don't shop there.
 
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"Research by the Business Institute for Political Analysis, an industry-supported group, shows that employers are one of the most trusted sources of political information for their workers."
Wouldn't employees know whether or not they trust the company they work for?

If they trust W-M, doesn't that mean that W-M is doing right by them?

If the media is correct and W-M is screwing their employees, then wouldn't the employees vote the exact opposite way that W-M wants?

Registering and encouraging them to vote is good. If W-M is evil, the plan will backfire. If WM is good, then they should be nominated for sainthood.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
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Funny.. I heard another "public" radio station bagging on NPR yesterday for being as bad as FOX. I didn't get it at the time, this kinda makes sense.

But this seems like such a one sided public relations spin. I'm not anti wal-mart, but still don't shop there.
I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

I think NPR has more quality programing during it's fund drives then Fox News has all year.
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
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Wouldn't employees know whether or not they trust the company they work for?

If they trust W-M, doesn't that mean that W-M is doing right by them?

If the media is correct and W-M is screwing their employees, then wouldn't the employees vote the exact opposite way that W-M wants?

Registering and encouraging them to vote is good. If W-M is evil, the plan will backfire. If WM is good, then they should be nominated for sainthood.
Come on.... we all know the majority of Walmart employees are borderline poor and more than likely under educated as well. NEWT clearly states that employes trust the political information their employer gives them.
People don't tend to bite the hand that feeds them. They can talk about how bad their job is all they want in the break room but when it comes to the paycheck at the end of the week they listen to what their employer days.
 
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NEWT clearly states...
Wait, do you believe everything Newt says?

Just cuz Newt supports WM doesn't make WM evil... just too straw man-ish.

As for WM being evil, they might have been, but they are changing in ways that will benefit the planet in only the ways that a large corporation can...

-- requiring farmers (esp. fish) to farm in self-sustaining ways.
-- changing their entire distribution fleet to completely non-gasoline in 10 years.
-- providing DVD players for cheap.

Lastly, back to the argument that employees are cattle... they might be, in public, but behind closed curtains, they'll do what they want. If they're as dumb as you suggest, then they'll vote the exact opposite if they don't like or trust WM.
 

skatetokil

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Jan 2, 2005
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I saw newt speak at an informal meeting the other day and he's actually quite a smart guy. He's even very anti bush when there isn't a reporter sticking a mic in his face.

as for walmart, i go there. they have hands down the best prices on ammunition, tools, school supplies, and third rate electronics.
 

kidwoo

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Yes, actually, I lived in one. There was furniture of course, but Wal Mart created I think several hundred jobs out of nowhere. These jobs benefited every other business in this small town by bringing in money to people who just sat around and collected welfare before. Maybe everything's so easy to understand from up in Tahoe, but in Dickson Tn. there wasnt **** else going on.

Come on man.....
I grew up in jacksonville florida and make very little more than you do with much higher living expenses in this area. The only thing elevated about my lifestyle is......well..the elevation. I wasn't born into your childhood but I paid for my own college and had periods where all I ate was oatmeal because I was so freakin broke. There's no silver spoon in my mouth.

I know you've been around the south enough to know what lies beyond the few larger metro areas. It's rural and pretty modest. What I saw growing up and the placement of walmarts help create was more suburban sprawl. They're not the only catalyst but they're certainly a component. Those hundreds of jobs created out of nowhere went to completely unemployed people?

Just read the title post.....more part time employment. You know what that means......less obligation to the employees. I can only argue so much against a company that operates legally and under voluntary employment but to think that the place is a benefit to communites just isn't all that accurate. For every walmart that exists, there are smaller businesses going under. And for the most part, what they sell is pretty low quality.

Check this book out sometime.

http://www.nickelanddimed.net/

It's an account of someone trying to live on minimum wages but there's a decent walmart employment section.
 

Biscuit

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Feb 12, 2003
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Check this book out sometime.

http://www.nickelanddimed.net/

It's an account of someone trying to live on minimum wages but there's a decent walmart employment section.
I've read about half of that book (then I moved and it's still in a box in my office).

I consider myself relatively conservative, but that book helped me understand more liberal ideals and the difficulties low-income workers face.

Good book and a worthwhile read.. maybee I'll dig into the rest of it tonight.
 

N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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I've read about half of that book (then I moved and it's still in a box in my office).

I consider myself relatively conservative, but that book helped me understand more liberal ideals and the difficulties low-income workers face.

Good book and a worthwhile read.. maybee I'll dig into the rest of it tonight.
Min wage is meant to be a starting place... not a wage you are going to earn your entire working life.

If you spend more than a year at minimum wage, then either you are not wanting to do what's nessessary to up your income or you are content with it.
 

kidwoo

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Min wage is meant to be a starting place... not a wage you are going to earn your entire working life.

If you spend more than a year at minimum wage, then either you are not wanting to do what's nessessary to up your income or you are content with it.
Right but it's also difficult to use that as a starting point if you start from zero....which is the point of that book. I pretty muched wiped out my savings and credit when I needed knee surgery between jobs with no health insurance. I borrowed money from a friend but without that I'd still be chasing debt.........and some situations people encounter are far worse. Think about something like katrina (the white people chasing insurance claims if it helps you).

You're assuming starting from ground level when there's quite often a hole to dig out of. And sometimes that takes more than one year. It's not always a lack of motivation.....although it is sometimes appicable.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Funny.. I heard another "public" radio station bagging on NPR yesterday for being as bad as FOX. I didn't get it at the time, this kinda makes sense.

But this seems like such a one sided public relations spin. I'm not anti wal-mart, but still don't shop there.
I'm not anti WalMart either, just that I can afford not to shop there amoungst the great unwashed masses.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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Come on man.....
I grew up in jacksonville florida and make very little more than you do with much higher living expenses in this area. The only thing elevated about my lifestyle is......well..the elevation. I wasn't born into your childhood but I paid for my own college and had periods where all I ate was oatmeal because I was so freakin broke. There's no silver spoon in my mouth.

I know you've been around the south enough to know what lies beyond the few larger metro areas. It's rural and pretty modest. What I saw growing up and the placement of walmarts help create was more suburban sprawl. They're not the only catalyst but they're certainly a component. Those hundreds of jobs created out of nowhere went to completely unemployed people?

Just read the title post.....more part time employment. You know what that means......less obligation to the employees. I can only argue so much against a company that operates legally and under voluntary employment but to think that the place is a benefit to communites just isn't all that accurate. For every walmart that exists, there are smaller businesses going under. And for the most part, what they sell is pretty low quality.

Check this book out sometime.

http://www.nickelanddimed.net/

It's an account of someone trying to live on minimum wages but there's a decent walmart employment section.

Well, you're correct for sure about the "suburban sprawl" part. But that's a void that would be filled either way as populations explode. And Im not saying that anything Wal Mart sells is of particular quality either...but what there is no denying is that they are of such large volume, that they sell things at ridiculously low profit margins, making just about everything more affordable.
WalMart screws over alot of businesses by either forcing their pricing standards, or simply eliminating small businesses...but to a consumer with very little money...what is important?
I already admit that their employment practices are shady, but do you think the mom and pop grocery stores and pharmacies offer anything better?
Big business is a bitch to the little man, we all know it, but a society as large and needy as ours demands it. Best Buy, Bass Pro Shops, Target...they are all guilty of the same things, they just arent near as succesful. The true reason Wal Mart is singled out is their size and importance to the US economy.
So yeah, you gotta take the good with the bad. Im glad you have some perspective and arent just some rich white guy in Aspen or Tahoe looking down his nose at the peons.
On the minimum wage thing, honestly, I dont know a person who works for that amount and isnt getting some sort of govt. subsidy. I dont know a single person in my life who is worth a damn (ie, not struggling with addictions or insanity, and willing to work) that cant make $10 an hour building decks on peoples houses, cutting grass, etc...
People shouldnt rely on Wal Mart for a career, is basically what Im getting at, but it definitely helps stretch a dollar.
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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Yes, actually, I lived in one. There was furniture of course, but Wal Mart created I think several hundred jobs out of nowhere. These jobs benefited every other business in this small town by bringing in money to people who just sat around and collected welfare before. Maybe everything's so easy to understand from up in Tahoe, but in Dickson Tn. there wasnt **** else going on.
Hey Walmart is the biggest department store right now, and so it is the one to criticize about the work practices, which is why they hired the ex Speaker to lobby for them.

I don't like their business practices, but no one is doing exposes about the local grocery/hardware/appliance stores. I bet many of them are much worse than WM.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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Hey Walmart is the biggest department store right now, and so it is the one to criticize about the work practices, which is why they hired the ex Speaker to lobby for them.

I don't like their business practices, but no one is doing exposes about the local grocery/hardware/appliance stores. I bet many of them are much worse than WM.
Yeah, see my post above. They pay mexicans under the table to stock shelves 'round these parts.