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Simoni's not a happy camper
VeloNews | July 28, 2004 | European correspondent

An irritated Gilberto Simoni said he might never return to the Tour de France after a three-week debacle that saw the two-time Giro d'Italia champion never rate as a challenger to Lance Armstrong's dominance.

Simoni said his performance was hampered by the exclusion of Danilo Di Luca, two crashes - first in the team time trial and another crash at Angers -- then the exclusion of his domestique and friend Stefano Casagranda.

"The Tour started badly and then was characterized by all the arguments and the bad weather rather than by the riders," Simoni said in an interview on Saeco's web page. "We didn't suddenly discover that Armstrong was very strong, we all knew he was the one to beat. I'd hoped to show myself but I have to say I was unlucky."

Simoni said he was bothered by the exclusion of Di Luca and later by Casagranda, both caught up in separate doping investigations, prompting Tour de France officials to remove any rider under investigation.

"Before the race we were put under pressure because of what happened to Danilo. His exclusion was unfair but then things were made worse by the exclusion of Stefano. The thing that irritated me the most was the complete uselessness of all the different rider associations," Simoni said. "Nobody stood up for the riders and even the UCI changed their position which isn't fair. The Tour is without a doubt the most important stage race in the world but it's us the riders who put on the show and so we should have been shown more respect."

Simoni went on to say the high speed of the opening half of the Tour took it out on many of the climbing specialists, but that he was feeling good until the Pyrénées.

"As I said it was a tough Tour. The thing that struck me the most was the high average speed, on every stage and right from the start. Something always happened from the first kilometer, a crash, a break and so the team was vital. U.S. Postal, T-Mobile and CSC kept the speed at a record high and this definitely did not help me to stay in form," he said. "I was surprised that in the first ten days I never really worked over my aerobic threshold even when we went hard. That seemed like a good sign but when the weather heated up I suddenly found myself struggling to breath and unfortunately we hit the Pyrénées straight away."

Though he hoped for more, Simoni said he couldn't help but tip his hat to Armstrong.

"He's an incredible professional and was in perfect form. Six Tours in a row are not down to good luck. You need both incredible physical and mental form to do what he did," Simoni said. "However, he was also lucky that things never went against him. You don't win the Tour just with good luck but you can lose it with bad luck."

Simoni also shot down rumors he would leave Saeco following a contentious Giro, that saw the team rally around eventual winner Damiano Cunego.

"As far the Tour is concerned, as long as it's like it is and until riders are not supported and defended properly, I won't be back. I've obviously got the wrong mental approach and that hurts me but I want to understand what my objectives can be and then try and achieve them".

However there is no doubt about Simoni's future."I hope I can stay with Saeco. I've won a lot with them and I've got a contract for another year. I'd still like to be part of the red train".
 

LordOpie

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WTF? Is he really saying that his teammates who were excluded for doping were *ONLY* under suspicion and not actually proven to be doping?

WTF ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? IF this is true and accurate, that's totally fvcked up.
 

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The tour pulled the riders because they were "only" under suspicion and being investigated. Funny thing is they were being investigated for something that happened 3 or 4 years ago.

Innocent until proven guilty is only for the courts. The Tour is privately ran and for invitees only. The US Olympic Commitee also can prevent an athlete from competing because of doping suspicion.
 

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ROME : Top Italian cyclist Danilo di Luca has added to pre-Tour de France doping controversies by asking race orgainsiers why he should be barred from next week's race, and not American Lance Armstrong.

Di Luca, who rides for the Saeco team, is one of three Italian riders being investigated by police who claim to have evidence after tapping phone lines that he has been doping.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/92233/1/.html
If a rider is under investigation, they are excluded.
 

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Westy said:
The tour pulled the riders because they were "only" under suspicion and being investigated. Funny thing is they were being investigated for something that happened 3 or 4 years ago.

Innocent until proven guilty is only for the courts. The Tour is privately ran and for invitees only. The US Olympic Commitee also can prevent an athlete from competing because of doping suspicion.

Just started it for this year's tour. The US Postal team was under investigation for two years (2001-2002?) before they dropped the investigation.
 

Westy

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Wumpus said:
Just started it for this year's tour. The US Postal team was under investigation for two years (2001-2002?) before they dropped the investigation.

The main difference is that the police claim to have hard evidence on the Italian riders. The US postal investigaion by the French was based on heresay and found no evidence.
 

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Westy said:
The main difference is that the police claim to have hard evidence on the Italian riders. The US postal investigaion by the French was based on heresay and found no evidence.
"Before the Tour, organizers said all riders "implicated in a judicial inquiry or under police investigation" would be barred."
 

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LordOpie said:
I understand that the TdF is a private group and can do what it likes, it's still wrong.
You are correct. I think they went a little too far.

The organisers of the Tour de France (ASO) have lost their appeal to the Professional Cycling Council to have Pavel Padrnos (USPS) and Stefano Zanini (Quick.Step) excluded from the Tour de France. The PCC sided with the UCI in the matter, ruling that the two riders should not be penalised, despite them being under investigation for doping in Italy, relating to the 2001 Giro blitz in San Remo.

"Regarding Zanini, because the decision on January 16, 2002 by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) acquitted the rider of anything, that means in the sporting world, the CAS decision does not allow for any further sanction against that rider," said the PCC in a statement.

"Regarding Padrnos, the product Dromos was apparently found in his room in the San Remo blitz, which in our understanding is an amino acid product that isn't banned. This substance contained as a filler a small quantity of mannitol, which according to UCI banned list was forbidden at the time of the 2001 Giro. Mannitol was considered a diuretic and was banned only if it was taken intravenously, so we note that mannitol was not an active element in Dromos so it's not a doping product under UCI or Italian law.