Next Fox fork?

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by 4xBoy, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. 4xBoy

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    So whats the guess,

    I will go with a 40 single crown.

    Or cheat with the logical 40 getting the QR axle and 8" post mount brake.


    Any other guesses?
     
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  2. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    A 40mm single crown is redundant, the 36 works just fine.

    I asked (begged) and the 40 is not getting a QR apparently.
     
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    but the 40 would be so perfect if it only was available with quick release!
     
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  4. no skid marks

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    I'm not a fan of QR. Why would you bother,an allen key works fine.
     
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    why not a tallas 40, that would be cool
     
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  6. Zark

    Zark Hey little girl, do you want some candy?

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    The axle on the 40 has always bugged me.
    Not because its not QR, but because the allen head (a 5mm) is on a seperate threaded cap from the axle itself.....which can break loose and results in a very stuck axle in dropout situation.
    Why do they do this? It seems heavy and inefficient to have the unnecessary threaded interface that can have problems.
     
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    Other than the gaping whole in their line for a 180mm SC FR fork. Face it, a lot of FR bikes are built around 66's and Totems.
     
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    this is my next 40...


     
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  9. FrontRangeDH

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    I am going with a thru axle 32 fork, 20mm dropouts on that fork would be perfect for 4X and lighter trailbikes
     
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  10. rowlands

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    40 float
     
  11. Zark

    Zark Hey little girl, do you want some candy?

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    Why? The Float 36 is as light as any 32mm stanchioned, 20mm axle fork I can think of.

    It has added stiffness at the same weight, so whats the benefit of the 32mm stanchions?
     
  12. FrontRangeDH

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    Alot of 4x racers want to be able to lower their forks below 100mm. Personally I would like a F80 with a through axle. the only reason I brought it up is I recieved word taht their was protos of this fork in existence and being tested
     
  13. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    The entire 4x/DJ.Slalom community has asked for a 80-100mm through axle fork from fox. I ran a float RLC forever. It was getting hammered from DJing with those spindly little crowns.

    I'd like to see a 80mm 36 20QR fork personally.
     
  14. syadasti

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    The new Fox/Shimano 15mm standard is teh ghey - a new standard to save less than 10 grams and piss off consumers:

    http://www.raleigh.co.za/blogs.php?blogId=182&authorId=5

     
  15. Tom Church

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    Enough with the new standards already...if everyone comes up with one it's kindo of ironic to call it a standard...
     
  16. General Lee

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    moronic for sure, but not really a case of irony.
     
  17. Banshee Rider

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    15mm standard? Sweet, I now have another reason to continue not riding fox forks and shimano components.
     
  18. Tom Church

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    good point...
     
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    Word.


    I'd like to see this over anything else.
     
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    Seems weird Fox is going the way of creating a new standard, they generally wait to do big changes. They are finally producing a 1.5 steerer 36 for 2009 and just started to build 29er forks
     
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    put me down for one of those
     
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    I'll take one too
     
  23. Zark

    Zark Hey little girl, do you want some candy?

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    I'm down for the 40 float.....or talas for that matter ;)
     
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    id be sold on the 40 float, the talas would probably be just about as successful as the boxxer ride though.
     
  25. SamB

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    A 40 float would be cool, but would it really save that much weight over having a ti spring? I think a 36 float triple would be sick though, imagine how light that would be.

    Don't think either of these will be seen in production in the near future though....
     
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    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    Eh? I have ridden float forks for a long time. I have ridden the 40 since just before it was launched as well. The 2008 Talas feels better than any float products I have ridden to date, up through a 2007 float.

    If you are a light guy, you should be running a light steel spring, as the Ti 40 spring is for guys weighing 180 and up. The stock light steel spring is the same weight as the Ti one. Lightweight DH riders are in the minority.

    The stock heavy spring (Yellow) is 420g. That's a fair amount of weight to shave off of your fork, something you have to continually move around.

    Anyone heavier than the stock weight takes a HUGE hit in spring weight when they go to a heavy or extra heavy steel spring. The air fork would benefit them greatly. I'd ride a 40 that felt like my talas in a heartbeat. A half pound or so off the front end is a big deal to me as a light rider.
     
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    ...you can actually buy one now. i just got the 2008 fox price list and the 1.5in steerer tube 36 forks are listed on there. i heard jan 2008 - well its jan 2008 so i think you can buy those. and their 29er stuff has been out for a few months at this point.

    and as for the new fork - id be surprised if fox didnt come out with a long travel single crown to compete with the 66 and totem series

    and a fork for the 4x dj guys
     
  28. William42

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    the 36 series are some of the stiffest forks i've ever ridden - maybe a 203mm travel version of the 36float

    edit: yes, i realize that'd be like fox saying that, actually after all these years of saying their 40mm stantions actually aren't as amazing as they'd claimed, so they wont actually do it, but it'd still be nice!

    maybe they could justify it on the grounds that the new QR makes up for the stantions
     
  29. Heath Sherratt

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    80mm Dj fork w/QR
    1.5 Steerer for 36
    1.5 Single crown 7in fork
    40 Float
    The future...believe it.

    They do need to change that thru axle system. The only thing i would change about the 40...pretty much perfect fork for me.
     
  30. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    That's pretty much a standard product path I'd say, ya. The 1.5 36 as mentioned, is shipping soon I believe.

    A lot of riders have been asking for a 40 float for awhile now. It's a 2009 product if it is happening, which means shipping end of February or beginning of March. I've asked and asked and got no firm reply about it for a good 9 months now, which is usually pretty telling.

    A 20QR on the 40 would make my damn year. A teammate and my bikes usually travel in his backseat, as the hitch rack kept hitting the ground in his car. This means lots of wheel removing. I'm also asking orange for some Maxle rear ends to go with it. :)
     
  31. Ian Collins

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    i thought you could adjust it down to 100mm?.....i guess not......maybe the ones i saw that were slammed to 100 were custom jobbies....
     
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    Err, I mean 80. You can do 100, ya.
     
  33. Heath Sherratt

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    Yeah, Maxle rear ends seem pretty money. Haven't had too much time workin with those yet but they seem pretty ideal.
     
  34. SamB

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    Yep thats fair enough. I haven't ridden any of the 08 Fox forks so I can't really comment on them, thats just based on my experiences with the older ones. I loved my 07 36 Float, have ridden on a couple of Talas's and didn't really like them that much, but thats just my opinion. I'm running a Medium Ti spring in my 40's at the moment but I'm going to be getting an extra soft one soon (got a new dh rig a couple of months back and haven't had the chance to set them up yet, got a broken wrist so can't ride it for a few weeks anyway).
     
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    I'd be all over an air 40 like a fat kid on a cheese danish
     
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    How about a stock'er direct mount top crown for the 40 that conforms to the international standard?
     
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    I'm not sure whether you know what you just said or not. Just to clariy, that'd be a Float with 40mm stansion. THat's would be for Bender on a travel diet.
     
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    Float with IS direct stem mount and the old axle setup.
     
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    an air 40 wouldn't ride like a coil 40 at all. thats why fox aren't going to release a 40 float.

    what i would love to see is a 36 dual crown fork. :drool:
     
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    They are obviously going to make a 38 to fill the gap between the 36 and the 40.:lighten: