NFL offseason 2008 discussion
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But he did get on the field in the indy game this year. took the bolts something like 80 yards and snuck in for a td. he may not be the best, but hes not a very bad clutch qb
The bigger issue is that there isn't a network of lower leagues to bounce the teams that suck to. I don't think the $$ is inherantly an issue, because, like I said, the europeans pull it off, and soccer is a huge deal over there. The owners of the american teams would obviously never go for it though.
So you're suggesting turning the Miami Dolphins into a university? Shouldn't they get their own sh*t together before they try to teach anybody else anything?
Anyone who posts on this thread is a loser.
Nice work.
Now all they need is a medicinal marijuana sponsor.
OK, but under my/ euro rules, they'd be gone after going 1-15. They could mount their turnaround somewhere else.
The two major issues with idea are this:
1: Not enough player depth, wasn't even enough to support the XFL.
2: Somebody has to suck.
Demote the Dolphins and the Raiders, then the next year it's the Falcons, then the year after that it could be the Cards. When it's all over, you have like 8 teams that don't suck "too bad" and you get tired of watching them play.
Is Turner the same style runner as Jones? If so, he WIll CLEAN UP in Chicago.
I'm with you on #1. #2 is a non issue though, because it's a two way street. If you suck, you get demoted. If you dominate, you get promoted. This obviously requires a sh*tton of teams spread over a whole bunch of leagues, so it wouldn't work for football, but overall I think it's a good concept.
Agreed. I just know the NFL doesn't even have enough good QB's as it is. Unlike the sheer number of amazing soccer players all over the world, minus the scrubs we have here in the states.
And that is why I prefer college football to pros. A ton of teams with a ton of talent and a lot less reliance on the QB position.
Easy there killer ... if I remember right, DMac was a complete non-factor against a Big 12 team in the Cotton Bowl.
DMac is NOT all that. Besides DNA's point above, he's also a wolf in sheep's clothing... as in, he's going to get in trouble off field and those headaches will transfer on field. I'm not saying he won't be good in the NFL, but he'll definitely be considered a bust if he goes top three.
Who would you like to see win their divisions next year?
AFC East: Bills
I don't see how NE can keep up the run with the aging defense and free agent problems. Jets and Dolphins suck.
AFC North: Browns... they look to be making a push. Cincy can't decide to be good. I don't like Pitt or Balt.
AFC South: Houston... tho I suspect it'll be Jax. Indy has too many question marks.
AFC West: Denver... just cuz it'd be fun for me. But the other teams do have many issues.
NFC East: NY GIants... I'm a little over the Mannings, I'd like a change of guard, but this is my least favorite division in the NFL.
NFC North: Minnesota... I can't say I really care, but for QB play, they'd be in the playoffs this year.
NFC South: Atlanta... I'd like to see this respectable, but troubled franchise get back into it.
NFC West: Arizona... Do they have a black cloud over them? They should be better. Plus, I'm a homer for the SW USA.
AFC East: Bills
I don't see how NE can keep up the run with the aging defense and free agent problems. Jets and Dolphins suck.
AFC North: Browns... they look to be making a push. Cincy can't decide to be good. I don't like Pitt or Balt.
AFC South: Houston... tho I suspect it'll be Jax. Indy has too many question marks.
AFC West: Denver... just cuz it'd be fun for me. But the other teams do have many issues.
NFC East: NY GIants... I'm a little over the Mannings, I'd like a change of guard, but this is my least favorite division in the NFL.
NFC North: Minnesota... I can't say I really care, but for QB play, they'd be in the playoffs this year.
NFC South: Atlanta... I'd like to see this respectable, but troubled franchise get back into it.
NFC West: Arizona... Do they have a black cloud over them? They should be better. Plus, I'm a homer for the SW USA.
Pretty good picks.
AFC East relies on the Pats having to give away some key free agents.
NFC East is anybody's conference.
NFC South could go either Saints or Bucs. Consistency is the key for both teams.
Everything else, pretty good projection.
Looks like the Pats have a very easy schedule next year, they play the NFC and AFC West, the worst two divisions next to their own. Imagine the consecutive wins they could have strung together if they won the SB?
I dunno man, I'm thinking that this was the beginning of the end for the Pats... aging defense, key free agent issues (loses), a Pat being busted for drugs yesterday, a lost first round draft pick.
They'll probably win the division next year, but I see Buffalo winning it the following year.
First round draft picks never seem to work out that well and cost a lot of money, it takes a few years for them to pay out too. The key to drafting well is doing it in the later rounds. Like when they got Brady.
I would expect like last year when they fixed their receiver problem they will fix their linebacker problem this offseason.
Who got busted yesterday?
some special team/ special coverage second year player was found with a half pound of pot. No big deal...
He has more tackles than any LB in the HoF.
BEFORE:
- Zach got a concussion and his play suffered for months horribly.
and
- Jim Bates (former Dolphin Def coach) proved that he was a one-trick pony with no skills
I WANTED Zach to come to the Broncos. That one key addition at middle LB in Bates' def.scheme would've made all the difference in the world.
Any team that has a younger LB core would benefit huge from bringing Zach in as a part-timer.
While that seems true, it's really not. The reason that teams like the Colts and Pats seem to perennially be contenders is that their high-payed early picks almost always seem to pan out. Also, I was reading a site a while ago that showed that a player drafted in the 1st round is likely to be more productive than one drafted in the 2nd, and a 2nd more successful than a 3rd, and so on. Basically that talent evaluators and scouts of all kinds have refined the science so well that these guys' career numbers now seem to relate pretty well to their draft status.
When I think about where the Colts and Pats are always drafting though...late 20's-ish at earliest, they dont tend to pick up these "boom or bust" type ultra athletes like Brian Bosworth or Reggie Bush who end up really not doing much, and the media really hiping on it. Instead they take guys like Logan Mankins, Vince Wilfork, Steve Smith, Dallas Clark, etc. Or the real catalyst, Peyton Manning. You dont see their drafts littered with failures like:
Kijana Carter
Cade McNown
Ryan Leaf
etc.
at least not in recent history.
Sure looks like Houston is a genius taking Mario Williams.
Well who knows? He had what, 10-12 sacks? There are 5th rounders taken in the same draft who have more.... Im not ready to put the guy in canton. Their 2nd rounder, Demeco Ryans is an all around better player to me. I believe that Vince Young and Reggie Bush, ultimately, will end up as disappointments, but that Cutler will be seen by history as the pick of the draft.
I think he is a Carson Palmer/Drew Brees level QB this season.
That is really impressive. I had no idea.
Yeah, in 11 seasons. How many HoF LBs have something like 15 year careers.
I hope he's healthy and his brain is okay cuz not only is he a great player, but an even better team leader.
The Falcons have released Alge Crumpler. WHY?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/15/falcons.ap/index.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/15/falcons.ap/index.html
It's gotta be about money, but even then, why not trade him? He's a top 10 TE, so cutting seems dumb.The Falcons have released Alge Crumpler. WHY?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/15/falcons.ap/index.html
UNLESS he's injured and has a sizeable March 08 bonus due.
...a bad 3 day run for .Pitsteelers. Both his teams go down in flames in front of a world audience
...anyway, this offseason, look for the bears to:
Sign RB Michael Turner from SD Chargers
Sign Guard Scott Lilja fron Indy
Re-sign QB Rex Grossman
Sign DT Tommie Harris to an extension
Sign KR/WR Devin Hester to an extension
Trade Brian Griese for a safety
CUT Muhsin Muhammad
Let free Agents WR Bernard Berrian and LB Lance Briggs walk.
Draft OT Ryan Clady from Boise St. in the 1st round
Draft Safety (insert name here) in the 2nd round
Bears cut Muhsin Muhammad on Monday, and made contract offers to Grossman, Berrian and Briggs.
Also, the NFL combine starts today on NFL network. Woohoo!
NFL network has been great since the end of the season. Other than some stupid bloopers show all the old NFL Film bits rock.
Free Agency begins in just over 3 hours.
I hear Mushin is going to Carolina and Berrian wants Top 10 WR money. And Briggs is gone, but not sure where. Maybe you'll get Turner?
...maybe but I doubt it. I feel they will blow their wad on Faneca or something. But turner is the guy I want.
Briggs and Berrian will likely both hit the road. Hester starting WR?
Briggs and Berrian will likely both hit the road. Hester starting WR?
The awesome (and aging) Issac Bruce was released today (in advance of hit $2mil roster bonus), so maybe the Bears will bring him in for a year or two for the great hands and role model factor?
Well they signed Kerry Colbert.... that should be a huge help. Somebody must have been drinking, ALOT.
I have come to the realization that the Bears arent going to be very good this year. They did nothing of note in FA, besides pay Lance Briggs.
I think it was a great move. We do not NEED a Chad Johnson or Randy Moss -- which would've been cool! -- we need a smart money move. We need a third WR and Colbert will fill that role very well.
I haven't heard of any attitude/off-field issues. Were there any in NC? If he comes in to compete and causes no problems, he'll do VERY well as a thrid WR.
I wish stats would give "targets" (like rusing/passing attempts), cuz he's had 109 catches in three years. That sucks, but what if he's only been targetted 120 times? Not really his fault.
Great move.