[N8 v2.0]

Plus they aren't detecting any radioactive evidence so far from the test from the first studied sample.

That's cuz it was....

 

[H8R]

Why doesn't Japan just build a nuclear bomb throwing giant robot to go and stomp the sh1t out of NK?

 

[Westy]

Why doesn't Japan just build a nuclear bomb throwing giant robot to go and stomp the sh1t out of NK?

A giant robotic Hello Kitty would be more their style.

 

[$tinkle]

Why doesn't Japan just build a nuclear bomb throwing giant robot to go and stomp the sh1t out of NK?

i was thinking more of flinging depleted poo; i wonder who would do the voice-overs for the poo-flinging-iron-giant.

 

[DRB]

A giant robotic Hello Kitty would be more their style.

I don't think it would need to throw anything....just the presence of a giant robotic Hello Kitty would cause the Koreans to poof out of existance.....

 

[$tinkle]

I don't think it would need to throw anything....just the presence of a giant robotic Hello Kitty would cause the Koreans to poof out of existance.....

sure you're not conflating powerpuff grrrlz?

 

[Transcend]

US tests are now confirming that it WAS a nuclear detonation, but that it somehow failed. Air samplings are showing certain gases, and certain types of isotopes in the air, but not in the amount that woudl be expected from a successfull test.

U.S.: Test Points to N. Korea Nuke Blast
Oct 13 7:55 PM US/Eastern

By ROBERT BURNS
AP Military Writer
WASHINGTON



The U.S. government has determined that one scientific test, among many conducted since North Korea's announced nuclear test, was consistent with a nuclear explosion, a senior administration official said Friday night.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, cautioned that the administration has not made a definitive conclusion about the nature of the explosion.



"The betting is that this was an attempt at a nuclear test that failed," the official said. "We don't think they were trying to fake a nuclear test, but it may have been a nuclear fizzle _ an effort that failed." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

 

[rockwool]

A lot of young people don't really have a clue and some will even express surprise there was a war and ask what side Japan was on. Others will know that Japan fought America but will express amazement that Australia was involved too. A lot of older people see themselves as victims as all they knew of the war was the hardships it caused. Others are of the view that Japan liberated Asia from European control and see know real reason why Japan needs to apologise for anything. There's also a lot of people who are genuinely sorry for what happened. All sorts really.

That type of ignorance is both sad and dangerous. Because of their lack of knowledge about Japanese occupation of China and Korea they will not be able to comprehend this situation, and that will instill fear in them that now is being used by the right wing to arm Japan and maybe even create a nukulur weapon of their own.

That is basically a reverse shwastika, they had the real nazi party symbol going on, or maybe the part was set upside down.

Swastikas can look differently but all are symbols of well-being (except nazi ones).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

 

[rockwool]

And North Koreas reply to the rest of the planets outrage?.....

Kim's message: War is coming to US soil
By Kim Myong Chol
("Unofficial" spokesman of Kim Jong-il and North Korea.)

Most informative article I've read on the subject! But I'm not with you on that outrage. NK has got a right to do this, and why it does it is clearified in the article even though it barely mentiones the historical side of it.

The second point is that a nuclear test will be a legitimate exercise of North Korea's sovereign right in supreme national-security interests of the country. The sole reason for the development of nuclear weapons is more than 50 years of direct exposure to naked nuclear threats and sanctions from the US. The Kim administration seeks to commit nuclear weapons to actual use against the US in case of war, never to use them as a tool of negotiations.

The first message, that it now has "sufficient military capability to take the war all the way to the continental US", has by some been taken as a threat but one has to view this from NK eyes. Their view is that they have been threatened by the US all these years, and the Korean war is viewed differently from the "official" view of the west.

All the past Korean heroes let the Land of Morning Calm be reduced to smoking ruins as the wars were fought on its soil, even though they repelled the invaders. One of the two major aspirations of the Korean people has been the buildup of military capability enough to turn enemy land into the war theater.

Like the Soviet Union they got tired of all agressors effing up their beautiful land. It is clear that they view them selves as the bullied little kid that because of his iron will still dares to go to school.

Kim Jong-il, who has led tiny North Korea to acquire the most coveted membership of the elite nuclear club, braving all the nuclear war threats, sanctions and isolation efforts on the part of the US.

The western view:

an impoverished, dysfunctional country of only 23 million people from consistently endangering the peace and stability of the world's most economically dynamic region

Stragely people in the west fail to see the threats that western countries make, and when the other side chooses to arm it self in defence it is seen as a threat to the west.

Absent US hostility, nuclear blackmailing, sanctions, threats of isolation and regime change, the Kim administration would never have thought at all of acquiring nuclear deterrence.

If you had a long time ago once been attacked and beaten by Biff the Bully, and ever since been threatened by him that he would hit you with a spikeclub in the head, you would probably not just settle with buying a helmet, but you would feel so afraid you would get a spikeclub of your own.

it has been subjected to US nuclear threats and sanctions and singled out as a prime target of nuclear preemption. The US refuses to end the state of war with North Korea while keeping combat-ready nuclear-attack forces ready in bases in Japan and South Korea. North Korea is not host to any foreign military bases. The US is engaged in ceaseless nuclear-attack exercises in and around Japan and South Korea.

Western media alwas brings up that NK is breaching the nukulur non-proliferation treaty, but some how fails to mention that that very same treaty says that the nukulur states have to continuosly reduce their arsenal until they have none.

The US, Russia, China, the United Kingdom, France, India, Pakistan and Israel conducted numerous nuclear detonation experiments in legitimate exercise of their sovereignty. There is no international convention or treaty that prohibits North Korea from conducting underground nuclear tests. No country is allowed to infringe on the sovereignty of North Korea in material breach of Chapter 2 of the UN charter

Same should go, shouldn't it? A second thing western media fails to mention is:

The fourth point is that the North Korea government of Kim does not care at all whether Japan goes nuclear, or that South Korea and Australia follow suit. In the first place, those countries are practically nuclear-armed because they are under the nuclear umbrella of the US and house American nuclear bases and because Tokyo's military spending is 10 times that of Pyongyang's and Seoul's defense budget is five times that of Pyongyang's.

One thing I've been trying to show in this forum is that US policies are not so well meaning as they claim to be, but instead are about controling "their" market.

The factor that has prevented them from developing their own nuclear weapons is political pressure from the US, not because North Korea was only conventionally armed. The US has insisted that they should be under the nuclear umbrella and buy expensive high-tech weapons from them.

Their becoming nuclear powers will signal that the US is no longer a reliable cop. At long last de-Americanization of the US allies and neutralization of the US in the rest of the world will be set into motion. This is one of the reasons why the Kim administration has every reason to secretly welcome the nuclear arming of junior US allies.

Why do we see all these South Koreans protesting in favor for peace with NK, while the west feels so threatened at the same time by the same NK actions? Maybe they know that the threat the west says NK is, is pure BS?

Had the Americans been steadfast in upholding the nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty by reducing their nuclear weapons and respecting the sovereignty and independence of the non-nuclear states, North Korea would not have felt any need to defend itself with nuclear weapons.

Muy importante:

It is important to note that the North Korean Foreign Ministry pledges to faithfully implement its international commitment in the field of nuclear non-proliferation as a responsible nuclear-weapons state and to prohibit nuclear transfer.

 

[Changleen]

That's cuz it was....

That's pretty much just a conspiricy theory though, eh N8?

 

[rockwool]

That's pretty much just a conspiricy theory though, eh N8?

Sure is! I think N8 has fallen for all the propaganda llkoolkeg has been exhaling and has secretly started rolling up philly blunts of his own in the country clubs library.

 

[DRB]

Sure is! I think N8 has fallen for all the propaganda llkoolkeg has been exhaling and has secretly started rolling up philly blunts of his own in the country clubs library.

Interesting you bring up a country club library. Is it really an different than your leftist lover library?

 

[rockwool]

Interesting you bring up a country club library. Is it really an different than your leftist lover library?

I used country club to give a (cliché) picture of where N8 (in character of a republican) hangs, as it is commonly pictured as a place for well to do people (like republicans are generalized as).
Library was to further deepen that picture as a classy place within a classy place, which is also relaxed and therefore an exelent place to enjoy your high.
(Hope you followed me on that one...)

Thinking at it now maybe a gentlemens club would have been a more accurate word as a country club is just a golf club, isn't it?

Thank you for calling me a leftist and using that word in a proper way, and not as it usualy is used to describe a supporter for the Democratic party.