No CCW needed in Arizona
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So can someone explain to me why people would want this?
I can get the idea of CCW permits where responsible people (there is a course or qualification involved yeah?) are allowed to carry for self defence and crims are discouraged because they don't know what their possible victim might be packing.
But seems to me this means that in AZ any dirtbag can stuff anything down his pants and its no longer a felony and I'm not sure why this is a good thing?
I can get the idea of CCW permits where responsible people (there is a course or qualification involved yeah?) are allowed to carry for self defence and crims are discouraged because they don't know what their possible victim might be packing.
But seems to me this means that in AZ any dirtbag can stuff anything down his pants and its no longer a felony and I'm not sure why this is a good thing?
Well, I'm guessing the massive surge of Mexican Mafia murders is starting to scare Arizona locals.
There are some notable murders in Arizona, and of course, it is like Afghanistan south of the border.
granted it's no longer punishable, but really, dirtbags are packing, and will always be packing, all over the country and nobody notices.
I see it as progress, and a more accurate interpretation of "the right to bear arms." I don't think classes are necessary, I think the background check to buy the weapon is all the proof you need.
personally, I believe that open carry does more harm than good to weapons carriers excercising their rights. people are terrified of weapons, weather responsible citizens are carrying them or not. people should be able to carry their weapons without scaring the hell out of civilians and getting stared at and shunned out of businesses and public areas. Let people excercise their rights, don't make it hard on them to concealed carry. I support it.
I dunno. I understand the purpose of keeping your name as a weapon owner off of government lists, etc. etc., but I believe when you're carrying a potentially dangerous thing in the public sphere, it's reasonable to demand a level of education and training that can be mandated through use of a permit.
I think the .gov should have to show a reason to deny a permit, however, rather than a citizen needing to prove some particular need or reason for wanting the CCW.
I think the .gov should have to show a reason to deny a permit, however, rather than a citizen needing to prove some particular need or reason for wanting the CCW.
My thing with the CCW is that I think if you are going to carry a gun presumably all the time, a little training should mandatory.
But in Norcal, there is no chance of getting a CCW, and the crime around the Bay Area is high.
I like to see what happens in Arizona. It might not be as disastrous as I believe it will be.
But in Norcal, there is no chance of getting a CCW, and the crime around the Bay Area is high.
I like to see what happens in Arizona. It might not be as disastrous as I believe it will be.
I hope they all accidentally shoot their balls off as they stuff their "piece" into their belts...
Vermont is the same way actually, no permit needed! Which actually surprised me, didnt see it as a state that would have something like that...or lack there of! We have very very little crime, but maybe thats just cuz its Vermont! lol Figured it'd be NH, everythings legal there! 
intelligence ftmfw
alaska and vermont have had it for quite some time... dont hear about the streets running red do we?
But we are talking about low population states where people are not getting in each other faces. And it is not exactly like the Canadien Mafia is sneaking across the border.
Also, those states are frozen for most of the year. Tends to keep things cool, if you know what I mean.
Like I said, I am curious to know.
My guess is there will be one or two notable cases, like a ridiculous argument or a personal defense shooting, and we will discuss the law then.
before I decide whether or not it's a good idea to visit SoMo this yearA moron with a gun can still (hopefully) understand that every one else is going to have a gun. I'm more worried about billy bob drunk in the desert shooting his dick off trying to pee
what's with your fascination with other men's junk?
This happened not so long ago in an east coast town in South Africa. A hijacker tried to pull his revolver on a woman and her young children to persuade them to get out of the car. Said hijacker had an epic fail of a draw and balistically removed a testicle.
Good for Arizona!!
Permit or no permit i would probably be packing living in or just visiting in that state;or anywhere near the border.Sh*t happens down there!
Open carry is a little wierd.Hide that gun already redneck!
Permit or no permit i would probably be packing living in or just visiting in that state;or anywhere near the border.Sh*t happens down there!
Open carry is a little wierd.Hide that gun already redneck!
derrrr, that's my best source of incomeWhy? cause he won't be able to tickle your throat anymore?
I was in Tempe right after the Gifford Shootings. The talk of the town was concern about high volume magazines being outlawed. People didn't seemed concerned about the shootings but how it might affect their future gun purchases.
There were like 11 murders in SF in January, an abnormally high figure would would project to double digit murders for the year, the highest in the last 10 years.
But there hasn't been much concern because almost all of them were not gang or drug related, just random incidents.
The Gifford shooting is also a random incident and it is hardly indicative of a crime pattern of Glock owners or community college dropouts.
I bet if there was something like this, people would care: