I'll remember that when I'm filling my Chevy Silverado on the 19th........ no wait, I probably won't :devil:Originally posted by golgiaparatus
Its pointless and wasteful.
I'll remember that when I'm filling my Chevy Silverado on the 19th........ no wait, I probably won't :devil:Originally posted by golgiaparatus
Its pointless and wasteful.
Originally posted by nicklin
i don't see how in the long term it's going to help gas prices: we pay massive amount of tax on our gas(something like 70-80 cents a gallon) just for the state, i doubt anyone can change the attitude of the state governemnt, which is basically paralyzed by special interest groups. then there is the operating cost of making gas, basic cost of crude oil, and the chain that no one wants to know about. But if you make the oil industry lose 4.6 billion a day, they would simply tack that onto the prices of gas on may 20th. So unless you can open a oil company that's vertically intergrated and want to provide the most affordable gas to the consumer(which i doubt you will if you were the ceo of a oil company).
Once again, my naive canadian friend, you have good ideas, but you are better off attend another peace rally in Vancouver BC than try to mes with the oil industry in the U.S..
You'll sing a new tune when gas is at $4.00 a gal.Originally posted by zod
I'll remember that when I'm filling my Chevy Silverado on the 19th........ no wait, I probably won't :devil:
Exactly.Originally posted by LordOpie
what's wrong with people driving a big, gas-guzzling SUV?
If they can afford it, then so what.
You're not "taking a stand". Taking a stand would be give up your car and start riding your bike to work. Taking a stand is not "Let's not buy gas for one day! Whee!"
If they had done more biking and excersive earlier in their life maybe they'd be in good enough shape to do it this week!Originally posted by Rapture
Also - this would involve people that under their circumstances need to drive.
although it would be amusing, it would be hard to convince an overly obese man, 86 year old japanese woman or stroke patient to bike halfway across city to get to work everyday.
If we where we support alternative solution possess the complete modification of culture, one do I that.Originally posted by Rapture
You can't hope that a society as ours she follows a so massive company as far as the impulsion of 'not for the rest of eternity' - that will be probably how long until prices of the gasoline reduces. It would be ideal if we could stop consuming altogether, but we needed realist. I'm that speaks taking baby walks - if we wished to reduce the gas of the conservatory, which wouldn't suddenly stops all the emissions of the factory, he we would be gradual. Not to fill for above in a day that I agree would not be single very impactful, but esperanzadamente he is something that we can do collectively, and equals then....
Probably not........Originally posted by golgiaparatus
You'll sing a new tune when gas is at $4.00 a gal.
That's a load.Originally posted by Rapture
You can't expect a society like ours to follow such a massive undertaking as to 'not drive for the rest of eternity' - which will probably be how long until gas prices reduce. It would be ideal if we could altogether stop consuming, but realistically we need to . I'm talking about taking baby steps - If we wanted to reduce greenhouse gas, we wouldn't suddenly halt all factory emissions, it would be gradual.
Not filling up on one day i agree would not be very impactful alone, but hopefully it is something that we can collectively do, and even then....
You obvioulsy don't live in the country? 30 miles to work, 4 miles to the grocery store, 10+ miles to any superstore (Lowe's, Walmart, etc.)Originally posted by binary visions
That's a load.
You don't have to not drive for the rest of eternity. Try, say, once a week. Walk to the store, one out of every 10 times you go. One beautiful day a month, ride your bike to work. Next time you go buy a car, look at the Ford Ranger instead of the F150.
Did you not actually read my post? I don't think I said anywhere in there that the specific options I mentioned were the only ways to save gas...Originally posted by zod
You obvioulsy don't live in the country? 30 miles to work, 4 miles to the grocery store, 10+ miles to any superstore (Lowe's, Walmart, etc.)
For some of us biking places is not a viable option.......
Cite the studies, please.Originally posted by N8
Studies indicate there is something like a 200 year oil supply. That's more than enough time to figure out some other fuel source.
Yep that one is me!! Not that my truck is that big/powerful truck but it is a fullsize.Originally posted by golgiaparatus
IMHO the only reasons for having a big powerful work vehicle is (1) you need a big powerful vehicle for towing or working or hauling
By "studies", he means "my grandfather once told me, in a drunken stupor..."Originally posted by johnbryanpeters
Cite the studies, please.
Thanks, J
I know binary visions sounds like a grumpy old fart with a chip on his shoulder, but don't let his attitude stop you from riding more often. This is a biking forum. 30 miles to work is a great distance to ride a couple times to month... providing it's safe enough. Four miles to go pick up cereal and bread when you run out is a nice way for the family to get out together with a destination.Originally posted by zod
You obvioulsy don't live in the country? 30 miles to work, 4 miles to the grocery store, 10+ miles to any superstore (Lowe's, Walmart, etc.)
For some of us biking places is not a viable option.......
Understood, these are all things I do.....mainly more as a time issue than to save gas but I guess in the end I am saving gas anyhow...Originally posted by binary visions
So, how about making a trip into town at the end of the day so you can get everything in one shot? Making lists and being thorough so you don't have to make the trip twice? Do a grocery shopping when you have to go somewhere anyway. Buy a more fuel efficient car. Once a month, bike into town to visit someone
Ahahahaha... Sorry, I've had one to many discussions with ignorant (and dim-witted) coworkers on this very same topic so I'm afraid I've been switched into my knee-jerk reaction mode.Originally posted by LordOpie
I know binary visions sounds like a grumpy old fart with a chip on his shoulder
Originally posted by binary visions
By "studies", he means "my grandfather once told me, in a drunken stupor..."
The route to work is a no go, it'd be very dangerous and I drive to work when it is still dark outside. Plus I am not a roadie, have no interest in buying a road bike, and don't really care to ride on high speed roads that don't have bike lanes. I'd rather be alive and waste gas.Originally posted by LordOpie
This is a biking forum. 30 miles to work is a great distance to ride a couple times to month... providing it's safe enough. Four miles to go pick up cereal and bread when you run out is a nice way for the family to get out together with a destination.
Originally posted by johnbryanpeters
Cite the studies, please.
Thanks, J
veggie oil, man, veggie oil, now that's the future!!!!!Originally posted by binary visions
Ahahahaha... Sorry, I've had one to many discussions with ignorant (and dim-witted) coworkers on this very same topic so I'm afraid I've been switched into my knee-jerk reaction mode.
One of the guys who was arguing with me about it drives a Chevy Tahoe with 22" rims, a lift kit, and who-knows what size tires... Yet it is white, constantly spotless, and always waxed, without a scratch on it. And he complains that he's always broke because of rising gas prices
Plus, there's the added bonus of constantly smelling like McDonald's french fries!Originally posted by nicklin
veggie oil, man, veggie oil, now that's the future!!!!!
exactly!!!Originally posted by binary visions
Plus, there's the added bonus of constantly smelling like McDonald's french fries!
I think I did see that. Or even if it wasn't that, I saw some show on a guy whose car ran on vegetable oil and was taking the used oil from fast food places.. He could get 50 gallon barrels at a time, usually for free.Originally posted by nicklin
exactly!!!
did you see the discovery channel show about the dude in that one colorado ski town that drives around and collect used oil from all the restaraunt? man tlaking about being hilarious.....
that was him alright. man he must stood out like a charlie in the middle of a vietnam war veteran's rally in a town where landcruisers and suburbans rule. well, he probably picked up some naive 17-year-old high school chick on vacation with her family who wants to go to berkely for envirnmental science to save the earth.....Originally posted by binary visions
I think I did see that. Or even if it wasn't that, I saw some show on a guy whose car ran on vegetable oil and was taking the used oil from fast food places.. He could get 50 gallon barrels at a time, usually for free.
Funny stuff. I bet he didn't pick up many ladies with that car, smelling as it did, though...
I can just see this guy..Originally posted by nicklin
that was him alright. man he must stood out like a charlie in the middle of a vietnam war veteran's rally in a town where landcruisers and suburbans rule. well, he probably picked up some naive 17-year-old high school chick on vacation with her family who wants to go to berkely for envirnmental science to save the earth.....
Originally posted by binary visions
I can just see this guy..
"Hey baby, you want to see something really environmentally conscious? You should see my bedroom.. No electricity at all..." [/QUOTE
you what's scary, that's a standard pick-up line of the hippies in UC Berkeley....
what? Everything? Life, the universe and everything... it's all a scam?Originally posted by Austin Bike
It's all a scam, ignore it.
Your pants are a scam.Originally posted by LordOpie
what? Everything? Life, the universe and everything... it's all a scam?
Damn, I forgot today was the 19th.Originally posted by golgiaparatus
YES! I still have a 1/4 tank left in my car today... VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!!!
Damn I would love to pay $1.93Originally posted by Cooter Brown
didn't have to buy any gas today, did that yesterday at $1.93 a f#cking gallon,