[Jesus]

I was looking at these tires for my trail bike. The Panaracer is a huge 2.4, and the NBX is a 2.3 I believe.

The Pana is light, about 800 ish grams, but they always seem to have a hard compound. Anyone like they way they hook up?

The Nokian has that new softer tread compund, but I don't know anyone who has tried it.

Anyone?

 

[Dusty Bottoms]

I've been riding the Panny's for about a month on my vpf, and am not very happy with performance. The durability was suprisingly good for a sub 800g tire, so no problems there. What I didn't like was how tall and stiff the side knobs are. I was riding Tunnel in SB on Sunday and noticed on 2 different occasions that during a slow speed turn the tire really digs in and stops rolling, causing the wheel to push instead of continuing to roll. Not fun, one instance resulted in rider ejection. A pal of mine has experienced the same sympton.

The tire I will likely try next is the Kenda 2.5 blue groove(f)and nevegal(r), 820g.

 

[Jesus]

I've been riding the Panny's for about a month on my vpf, and am not very happy with performance. The durability was suprisingly good for a sub 800g tire, so no problems there. What I didn't like was how tall and stiff the side knobs are. I was riding Tunnel in SB on Sunday and noticed on 2 different occasions that during a slow speed turn the tire really digs in and stops rolling, causing the wheel to push instead of continuing to roll. Not fun, one instance resulted in rider ejection. A pal of mine has experienced the same sympton.

The tire I will likely try next is the Kenda 2.5 blue groove(f)and nevegal(r), 820g.

Too bad, I had high hopes for them.

I would love to try the Blue Grooves, but none of my suppliers carry them, and I won't pay retail. I have heard nothing but good things about them.

 

[math2014]

I got the NBX DH 2.3 and i am more than happy with it.... it tracks and holds well and since it is my first proper big tire i was impressed with how it can plough through stuff....

On a DH run place in SW England 4 guys had flats with kujos, i had nothing... and due to my lack of skill i was hitting all the bad parts of the trail with bushes, thorns and rocks!

Highly recommended... however i cant compare it to a lot of other tires.

 

[Bacardi]

..... and I won't pay rxxxxx.

Check with go-ride. they have decent prices on kendas they have left. got a nevegal for 35 (DH casing tho).

 

[Greyhound]

I've had Nokian's on all my bikes.........2.3's. They rawk. They don't wear very fast either.....even on pavement. But yet, they are still quite sticky on the slick stuff-----tremendously gnarly side knobs.

 

[Kntr]

You cant go wrong with either. I have a buddy with the NBX and a buddy with the Panaracer and both swear by their tires. I personally like Maxxis Minions.

 

[rjw]

I've got the NBX 2.3s on one bike, wear very quickly, but pretty good other than that.

Used to run the Panaracer Fire FRs on the full-sus, but retired them due to them being so damn heavy (we only get the 1.4kg black/red versions here), and the red sidewall looks stupid.

They are a lot wider than the Nokians, and I had trouble with the chain catching on the side-knobs, however they were a good performing tyre. If only they'd import the lighter, and plain black, versions to the UK I'd probably still be running them

 

[offdawalley]

I run the nodian NBXer's, very sticky, corner great, the sidewall is pretty thin so they are pretty light, but I got a few flats on them with my hardtail, I'll probably buy them again

 

[Broken_Spoke]

I run the NBX and I love them. The hook up is great. I haven't had the wear problem that was mentioned. Now Marzocchi has the almost exact same design as the NBX (Nokian did help them design the tire hmmmm) but the blocks are in the shape of the M logo.

 

[Kornphlake]

Too bad, I had high hopes for them.

I would love to try the Blue Grooves, but none of my suppliers carry them, and I won't pay retail. I have heard nothing but good things about them.

Do you realize how that makes you sound? Saying that you refuse to pay retail because you are a retailer and you can't get a tire you want from your supplier seems a little eliteist, shouldn't you at least consider supporting the industry that is supporting you, maybe put some food on somebody else's table for once? You know what the approximate markup on a tire is better than I do, but on a $35 item the differance between wholesale and retail can't be more that $35, I spend more than that on double ply toilet paper in the amount of time it would take a pair of tires to wear out. Do I need double ply toilet paper? No, but I am willing to pay a little more for it, the differance in cost is negligable between single ply and double ply, as would be the differance between paying retail vs wholesale on something as low dollar as a tire. If we were talking about retail vs wholesale on something like a frame maybe I'd be more sympathetic but geeze we're talking about $20 at most that you'd have to spend above your wholesale price. Get over it and get the tire you think will work best.

 

[JRogers]

Do you realize how that makes you sound? Saying that you refuse to pay retail because you are a retailer and you can't get a tire you want from your supplier seems a little eliteist, shouldn't you at least consider supporting the industry that is supporting you, maybe put some food on somebody else's table for once? You know what the approximate markup on a tire is better than I do, but on a $35 item the differance between wholesale and retail can't be more that $35, I spend more than that on double ply toilet paper in the amount of time it would take a pair of tires to wear out. Do I need double ply toilet paper? No, but I am willing to pay a little more for it, the differance in cost is negligable between single ply and double ply, as would be the differance between paying retail vs wholesale on something as low dollar as a tire. If we were talking about retail vs wholesale on something like a frame maybe I'd be more sympathetic but geeze we're talking about $20 at most that you'd have to spend above your wholesale price. Get over it and get the tire you think will work best.

Get over yourself. I wouldn't pay retail if I did not have to. He is not under any obligation to give his money away to other people (and if you want to go that direction, give his money away to possible competitors).

 

[Jesus]

Do you realize how that makes you sound? Saying that you refuse to pay retail because you are a retailer and you can't get a tire you want from your supplier seems a little eliteist, shouldn't you at least consider supporting the industry that is supporting you, maybe put some food on somebody else's table for once? You know what the approximate markup on a tire is better than I do, but on a $35 item the differance between wholesale and retail can't be more that $35, I spend more than that on double ply toilet paper in the amount of time it would take a pair of tires to wear out. Do I need double ply toilet paper? No, but I am willing to pay a little more for it, the differance in cost is negligable between single ply and double ply, as would be the differance between paying retail vs wholesale on something as low dollar as a tire. If we were talking about retail vs wholesale on something like a frame maybe I'd be more sympathetic but geeze we're talking about $20 at most that you'd have to spend above your wholesale price. Get over it and get the tire you think will work best.

Mabye I should elaborate a little more.

Paying retail is really only one reason. As I also only want to ride what I sell. I sell a lot of products because I use them, and it wouldn't be good for me to promote something I can't get.

 

[Jesus]

Get over yourself. I wouldn't pay retail if I did not have to. He is not under any obligation to give his money away to other people (and if you want to go that direction, give his money away to possible competitors).

Thanks for the back-up.