My hardtail with a 120mm fork has a longer wheelbase than the size L DH-Racer.hooboy bikes used to suck
http://www.turnerbikes.com/turner-pdf/catalog/2002_turnerbikes_catalog.pdf
The wheelbases on that 'dh' bike back then.........eeeek!
DH courses were very different "back then". I owned a 1999 DHR and for the time period it was a very capable machine for what it had to get down. Tight turns, technical and very little high speed sections. Evolution of the DH bike followed closely evolution of the DH course. Trying to get a modern DH geo bike through some of those old Sunday River BOMB series courses would be quite challenging68 degree headangle, 15" bottom bracket.
Pretty much the same bike really.
Bike looks like bike so therefore bike. Seems legit.
hooboy bikes used to suck
http://www.turnerbikes.com/turner-pdf/catalog/2002_turnerbikes_catalog.pdf
The wheelbases on that 'dh' bike back then.........eeeek!
And yet I've recently had to admit to myself that there are rides that I will never ride as well as I did on a '95 prototype Voodoo hardtail. Granted they are uber technical trials type rides but it wasn't all bad.hooboy bikes used to suck
I guess my question is what makes this an ultra high end frame besides the outrageous price?the price is on par for other ultra high end frames,
None were as bad as this:
Thing was designed for OTB. Rode a friends and went over 5 times before I gave it back to him. He only owned it 2 weeks and returned it to LBS for a CAAD3 frame.
The stickers are shiny.I guess my question is what makes this an ultra high end frame besides the outrageous price?
Nope. Mine was still cheaper (probably barely). Plus you know, the MT was a custom frame, made in the U.S. Not an off the shelf chinese/catalog frame.The stickers are shiny.
Honestly though........these are cheaper than what your MT + shock cost aren't they?
I know you got custom, well everything out of it but still. Normal people don't want that paint job.
What orifice did you pull that out of?Not an off the shelf chinese/catalog frame.
Seriously. Made in China doesn't mean it's a catalog frame. Turner designed it and had tooling made for it, they just had the manufacture done overseas.Parts ordered out of a catalog don't take 5 years to get. Just because carbon facilities are in china, that doesn't mean the frames aren't getting designed, molded and having tooling made for them.
I'm proud to be the orifice from which things are pulled around here. Better than being the one in which things are inserted.What orifice did you pull that out of?
Oh right.....the one called 'hacktastic'
Wouldn't something need to be inserted in order to be subsequently removed?I'm proud to be the orifice from which things are pulled around here. Better than being the one in which things are inserted.
Do I really have to explain the dynamics of taking a dump?Wouldn't something need to be inserted in order to be subsequently removed?
I really hope that your stool doesn't need removal from an external force.Do I really have to explain the dynamics of taking a dump?
Need? No, but it can sure make things more festive.I really hope that your stool doesn't need removal from an external force.
I didn't know that you were German.Need? No, but it can sure make things more festive.
Almost exclusively German. Now you know.I didn't know that you were German.
By Hasselhoff, you've done it!
Hey now, I rode a 2002 DHR and it didn't totally suck........... (mine was drilled as far back as possible to lower the bb)hooboy bikes used to suck
http://www.turnerbikes.com/turner-pdf/catalog/2002_turnerbikes_catalog.pdf
The wheelbases on that 'dh' bike back then.........eeeek!
I wasn't far behind with a 2003.Hey now, I rode a 2002 DHR and it didn't totally suck...........
The GEO on the bike is decent. It isn't big and would probably order an XL with a 35mm stem or a LG with a 50mm stem. The bike should pedal well I have no idea who is making Turners frames but hopefully it is Santa Cruz just so it is someone in Asia that has been doing it awhile...