A downside to having a spring in each leg? Not that I've ever heard. A lot the old school MTB forks had dual springs.
I am under the impression that they are not separate legs, but physically stacked one on top of the other in a single leg with what looks like some type of isolater between
Kind of odd?
Could be either way, I suppose. But it seems like even mis-matched springs would put less force on an arch/ lowers than a single side spring. Could be a nice way to fine tune the rate
No, it has to be separate legs. For example he says that 24 lb/in + 24 lb/in = 48 lb/in. Which is only true if the springs are in parallel (I.e. In separate legs).
Ya, I guess that would work as well.
Aw man, what happened to Lemmy?
Same on the youtube.
and how in hell a coil sprung fork would have better performance than air because naturally air forks have more dials to play with so they must perform better. Don't even try to explain the difference between damping and spring to most cyclist.
In general, that would just make them more wet.I've had heated arguments over how a boxxer WC is worlds apart from a Boxxer Team because "it has air dampening" and "therefore is more plush"...
Is there a weight listed for the Vorsprung?
There is no real need for one. The only force one has to counter to start the thing moving is the friction between the seals and the stanchions and maybe the bushings. When you preload the spring that adds to it. But there is no inherent starting pressure and therefor force like on an air spring.
Yeah but the wheel, tyre, CushCore, and fork lower is probably 6.5lbs and having it come to a stop without a thud makes the fork feel quite a lot nicer and makes the front end feel like it tracks better through fast rough stuff.
A buddy of mine bought a new bike that was supposed to come with the Yari, but the bike manufacturer upgraded it to the Lyric for no charge because they were out of the Yari at the time. He already ordered the Avy cartridge though. I thought he wasted his money. When he brought the bike down to me to put the cartridge in I realized how huge of a difference it made just pushing down on the bar in my basement. I've been wanting to get one myself, but $400+ little too much for me at this time. We went on a ride together the following day and just watching him go across a washed out access road was impressive. The bar or his body didn't budge, but the wheel was fully active. I'll take the weight penalty for a better ride any day. The 3 rear shocks Craig did for me made a world of difference in the way the bikes handle.
Cutting a spring in half also halves its available travel (actually less than half, since you have to now have two lots of closed/ground inactive ends), so for a given max travel & combined rate two springs are invariably heavier than one in that regard, which is why all the major manufacturers (even Marzocchi) eventually ditched twin spring systems.
To be fair, and judging by pics/videos that I've seen here, it would seem that the average monkey (excluding me) rides harder, goes bigger or is more skilled than the average mtbr forum member hence the appreciation for coil and aftermarket suspension products. It also seems that the monkeys are entering middle age judging by their proclivity for fanny packs, 29ers and enduro (I have no problem with these by the way).Same on the youtube.
They can't wrap their head around how air is not the superior spring medium
I've had heated arguments over how a boxxer WC is worlds apart from a Boxxer Team because "it has air dampening" and "therefore is more plush"...
Also "you can't adjust coil forks" so "they're always too hard for most people"
