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Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
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Up sh*t creek, without a paddle
Or so the GOP would have you believe...

What the hell is wrong with people...(rhetorical question, thank you very much)

Article said:
"I'll be keeping my kids at home that day," a person identified as "Nascar Dad" wrote on the Tampa Bay Times Web site. "Our school is offering an 'alternative' activity, but if millions of parents across the country keep their kids out of school; Ouch!"
Yeah...'alternative activity'...he's probably hoping for a prayer against the antichrist...

jfc.
 

splat

Nam I am
Or so the GOP would have you believe...

What the hell is wrong with people...(rhetorical question, thank you very much)



Yeah...'alternative activity'...he's probably hoping for a prayer against the antichrist...

jfc.
Yeah Its pretty stupid , let see the president is going to say "stay in school M'kay , drugs are Bad M'kay " etc etc . Personally I like the idea of it .

however with the GOP gripping about it is not like it is with out Precedence.

She noted that President George H.W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of making the event into a campaign commercia
Its just politics as usual.
 

RaindogT

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Dec 22, 2005
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Its just politics as usual.
Politics as usual is a fair assessment, BUT

There is a big difference in crying "campaign stunt" and crying "He's a socialist and is trying to seduce my kids into a socialist world...."

(and, yes, those are actual comments that I've read various places-- "keep your socialism away from my kids" and "The great indoctrination begins, if it were my child and the skrewl they attended, I would pull them that day. To the liberal leftest loons: Stay away from from my kid!" Or how about "I know if I had a kid there I wouldn't want he/she exposed to a Communist. Mine would also be taken from school that day. "

Tin Foil hat anyone?
 

Silver

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"keep your socialism away from my kids" and "The great indoctrination begins, if it were my child and the skrewl they attended, I would pull them that day.
My answer to those people would be that they should send their little snot factories to private school if they don't like socialism...I wonder how many cans of Milwaukee's Best you need to pay for tuition?
 

JohnE

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May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
"I'll be keeping my kids at home that day," a person identified as "Nascar Dad"...

Just like his parents kept him at the trailer the day they let them negro children into that school down thar in Buhminham...

I dont want my children in school with children of a person who goes by that name anyway...
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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this is a brainwashing attempt.

the first thing will happen is that Obama puts the kids to sleep with a real boring speech...
 

stevew

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the first thing will happen is that Obama puts the kids to sleep with a real boring speech...
the teleprompter can't do everything for him....it's up to him to liven it up a little.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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This was posted on Facebook by a guy I went to high school with. :panic:

Hitler took power in Germany by espousing social programs and getting the poor and needy to rally behind him. Then turned to the youth to make sure he could brain wash them with his rhetoric. Isn't another world leader trying to socialize government programs, and is now attempting to spread his word to the youth?
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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Politics as usual is a fair assessment, BUT

There is a big difference in crying "campaign stunt" and crying "He's a socialist and is trying to seduce my kids into a socialist world...."

(and, yes, those are actual comments that I've read various places-- "keep your socialism away from my kids" and "The great indoctrination begins, if it were my child and the skrewl they attended, I would pull them that day. To the liberal leftest loons: Stay away from from my kid!" Or how about "I know if I had a kid there I wouldn't want he/she exposed to a Communist. Mine would also be taken from school that day. "

Tin Foil hat anyone?
Keep in mind, many people suspect that this group is using the words "socialist" and "communist" as a code word for "black person" (or other ethnic slur).



One thing worth noting: look at the list of states boycotting:

Districts in states including Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Virginia, Wisconsin have decided not to show the speech to students.
 

jimmydean

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Sep 10, 2001
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Fackers!

Gibbs pointed out to reporters Friday morning that two Republican presidents have given speeches to students: Ronald Reagan in 1988 and George H.W. Bush in 1991.
The White House has been brainwashing us for years!
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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These are the same loons that demand creative design be taught in highschool bio, because "it's just another point of view and students should be exposed to all arguments so they can make up their own minds."

*dramatic pause*
 

dante

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This was posted on Facebook by a guy I went to high school with. :panic:
I originally thought Hitler came to power based on nationalistic and racial pride in an era of economic devastation brought about by the punitive actions of foreign governments and financed his takeover with confiscation of property and currency owned by the nation's undesirables (primarily Jews).

I guess I was wrong though, he obviously did it solely through a televised address to the nation's schoolchildren.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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I originally thought Hitler came to power based on nationalistic and racial pride in an era of economic devastation brought about by the punitive actions of foreign governments and financed his takeover with confiscation of property and currency owned by the nation's undesirables (primarily Jews).

I guess I was wrong though, he obviously did it solely through a televised address to the nation's schoolchildren.
I blame public schools.
 

Silver

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This was posted on Facebook by a guy I went to high school with. :panic:
Isn't another world leader trying to socialize government programs, and is now attempting to spread his word to the youth?

I see we have another carton of retard eggs cracked on the floor at the supermarket of ideas.

Cleanup on aisle 5, please...
 
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jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
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I originally thought Hitler came to power based on nationalistic and racial pride in an era of economic devastation brought about by the punitive actions of foreign governments and financed his takeover with confiscation of property and currency owned by the nation's undesirables (primarily Jews).

I guess I was wrong though, he obviously did it solely through a televised address to the nation's schoolchildren.
Dante, your post was so awesome, I shared it. Here is the overwhelming response:

Kind of like now. Building socialized programs masked by nationalistic pride during an era of economic devastation. "Let's help everyone during this time of need. Don't let people die for lack of medical care." Every emergency room in the country is free. If you can't or wont pay the bill the federal government will pay it for you. All that ... Read Morewithout national socialized healthcare!

Now let's rally the kids behind the cause, and make sure we get them young so they don't know when we are lying to them.
I blame the jews since they are the common theme here.
 

manimal

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Feb 27, 2002
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These are the same loons that demand creative design be taught in highschool bio, because "it's just another point of view and students should be exposed to all arguments so they can make up their own minds."

*dramatic pause*
case in point?

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7814-LA-Church--State-Examiner~y2009m5d1-OC-Student-Wins-Case-Against-ChristianBashing-Teacher

Orange County high school student, Chad Farnan, has won a lawsuit in which the court ruled Friday against a teacher who was shown to often use his classroom to attack Christian thought.
The judge in the case held that Corbett did violate an establishment clause by stating “an unequivocal belief that creationism is ’superstitious nonsense,’” according to a press release from the group defending Farnan. The court went on to hold that Corbett’s statement “constitutes improper disapproval of religion in violation of the Establishment Clause.”
yay! for dissolution of a double standard! :thumb:




oh yeah...i could care less if the prez wants to give a common sense speech to youngins. if a kid needs the prez to motivate him well.....that kid probably needs all the help he can get anyway.
 

syadasti

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yay! for dissolution of a double standard! :thumb:
Creationism is superstitious nonsense, all that is left are fundamentalist wackos. Even the Catholic Church endorsed evolution over a ten years ago.

Creationism is not only non-sense that wastes taxpayer money in some public education systems but it could harm life saving research, a fact that has been demonstrated numerous times. Most recently on HIV research. Creationism, like other facets of fundamentalism (Christian or Muslim) only harm humanity.

In six months, evolutions 'just so story' led to new drug targets for new HIV/AIDS therapies, and a brand new avenue of research for immunologists and virologists all over the world (tetherins role in influenza, ebola, EBV, herpes, whoo!!!!).

... But what would have happened in Bizarro World? What would have happened if Intelligent Design Creationists were in charge of the NIH? What if someone like Michael Behe were controlling who got money for research?
Six months ago (well, four months, took him a while) Behe would have thrown everything known about HIV-1 Vpu into the garbage can. My original essay and all of the information it contained was 'pathetic', 'unimpressive', and 'meaningless.' Why would you continue to waste money studying the evolution of HIV-1, when it doesnt evolve in a 'meaningful way'?

This study, this study that discovered a brand new branch of innate immunity, this study that could potentially help us treat all kinds of viral infections, would have never happened in Bizarro World.

What has Behe been doing the past six months? How has he contributed to the HIV research community? The medical community? The scientific community? Its not fair to single Behe out in Bizarro World-- What about Dembski? Wells? West? Am I missing anyone? What have they done in the past six months to help stop AIDS, cancer, influenza, MSRA, anything??

Rather than being an icon for the failure of evolution, HIV-1 is an icon for the complete and utter failure of Creationism.
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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Creationism is superstitious nonsense, all that is left are fundamentalist wackos. Even the Catholic Church endorsed evolution over a ten years ago.

Creationism is not only non-sense that wastes taxpayer money in some public education systems but it could harm life saving research, a fact that has been demonstrated numerous times. Most recently on HIV research. Creationism, like other facets of fundamentalism (Christian or Muslim) only harm humanity.
my point wasn't for or against creationism, just pointing out a modern case where the court sided in favor of separation of church for the right reasons. the creationism comment is just what jogged my memory of hearing on talk radio today.
 

BurlyShirley

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Jul 4, 2002
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my point wasn't for or against creationism, just pointing out a modern case where the court sided in favor of separation of church for the right reasons. the creationism comment is just what jogged my memory of hearing on talk radio today.
I dont know that this case necessarily demonstrates a separation of church and state, because you have a legal body protecting a certain religion's factual legitimacy on at least some level. After all, if this teacher had gone on a rant about Leprechauns or Unicorns being nonsense, do you really think the court would be doing anything? Yet they're equally unbelievable, mythical BS.
Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular decision...just something to think about though.
 

Silver

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my point wasn't for or against creationism, just pointing out a modern case where the court sided in favor of separation of church for the right reasons. the creationism comment is just what jogged my memory of hearing on talk radio today.
I suppose you'd be in favor of the same judgement if a teacher said that believing that Allah is God and Mohammed is his prophet is superstition?

Remember, Jesus knows when you're lying...
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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I suppose you'd be in favor of the same judgement if a teacher said that believing that Allah is God and Mohammed is his prophet is superstition?

Remember, Jesus knows when you're lying...

yes, as a matter of fact i would. everyone's right to practice their religion unprovoked is what makes this country great. the establishment clause has recently been used to keep religion out of government and it's nice to see it work the other way as well.
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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I dont know that this case necessarily demonstrates a separation of church and state, because you have a legal body protecting a certain religion's factual legitimacy on at least some level. After all, if this teacher had gone on a rant about Leprechauns or Unicorns being nonsense, do you really think the court would be doing anything? Yet they're equally unbelievable, mythical BS.
Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular decision...just something to think about though.
the difference is this:

leprechaun/unicorn is not a moniker of an organized and established religion; your analogy is moot.
 

Silver

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yes, as a matter of fact i would. everyone's right to practice their religion unprovoked is what makes this country great. the establishment clause has recently been used to keep religion out of government and it's nice to see it work the other way as well.
You know, I'm going to file that under the "I'll believe it when I see it" file.

You're confusing the freedom of practice with freedom from criticism, by the way. They aren't the same thing.
 

sanjuro

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Right about now, if I was 11 years old, there would be a pool of drool on my desk while I rested my eyes...
 

sanjuro

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"don’t let your family or your country or yourself down" is a code phrase which means inform on your parents and submit to the gruppenfuhrers at Amerikorps!
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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You know, I'm going to file that under the "I'll believe it when I see it" file.

You're confusing the freedom of practice with freedom from criticism, by the way. They aren't the same thing.
how about freedom from persecution and public ridicule in a government setting?

and you must have me pegged wrong if you think i'm the type to openly ridicule someone based on their religion. i may debate philosophical issues but i would never attempt to deny someone their right to peacefully practice their religion. i'd have a hayday debating blatant contradictions with a mormon...if it were an open conversation, not in a government setting(teacher/student, for instance) , but i would never tell them they're stupid for participating in their own faith, as the teacher in this case has done.
 

X3pilot

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Goddamn leader of the Nation trying to brainwash our youth to disregard the examples their parents have set for them and embrace personal responsibility. How dare he! :clue:

"At the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world. None of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibility."
 

jimmydean

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Goddamn leader of the Nation trying to brainwash our youth to disregard the examples their parents have set for them and embrace personal responsibility. How dare he! :clue:
He was trying to get people to join the military.

"None of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibility."
By responsibility he means to join up.
 

Silver

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As long as you're comfortable with teachers being sued for making non-controversial statements of fact.

I suppose you support taking "Under God" out of the pledge of allegiance now too? Or is that different?