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Obama Okays Assasination of American Citizens

Pesqueeb

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At least according to this article.
In late January, I wrote about the Obama administration's "presidential assassination program," whereby American citizens are targeted for killings far away from any battlefield, based exclusively on unchecked accusations by the Executive Branch that they're involved in Terrorism. At the time, The Washington Post's Dana Priest had noted deep in a long article that Obama had continued Bush's policy (which Bush never actually implemented) of having the Joint Chiefs of Staff compile "hit lists" of Americans, and Priest suggested that the American-born Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was on that list. The following week, Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the "right" to carry out such assassinations.

Today, both The New York Times and The Washington Post confirm that the Obama White House has now expressly authorized the CIA to kill al-Alwaki no matter where he is found, no matter his distance from a battlefield. I wrote at length about the extreme dangers and lawlessness of allowing the Executive Branch the power to murder U.S. citizens far away from a battlefield (i.e., while they're sleeping, at home, with their children, etc.) and with no due process of any kind. I won't repeat those arguments -- they're here and here -- but I do want to highlight how unbelievably Orwellian and tyrannical this is in light of these new articles today.

Just consider how the NYT reports on Obama's assassination order and how it is justified:

The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday. . . .

American counterterrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They say they believe that he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network, feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and at Americans abroad, the officials said.

It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing, officials said. A former senior legal official in the administration of George W. Bush said he did not know of any American who was approved for targeted killing under the former president. . . .

"The danger Awlaki poses to this country is no longer confined to words," said an American official, who like other current and former officials interviewed for this article spoke of the classified counterterrorism measures on the condition of anonymity. "He’s gotten involved in plots."

No due process is accorded. No charges or trials are necessary. No evidence is offered, nor any opportunity for him to deny these accusations (which he has done vehemently through his family). None of that.

Instead, in Barack Obama's America, the way guilt is determined for American citizens -- and a death penalty imposed -- is that the President, like the King he thinks he is, secretly decrees someone's guilt as a Terrorist. He then dispatches his aides to run to America's newspapers -- cowardly hiding behind the shield of anonymity which they're granted -- to proclaim that the Guilty One shall be killed on sight because the Leader has decreed him to be a Terrorist. It is simply asserted that Awlaki has converted from a cleric who expresses anti-American views and advocates attacks on American military targets (advocacy which happens to be Constitutionally protected) to Actual Terrorist "involved in plots." These newspapers then print this Executive Verdict with no questioning, no opposition, no investigation, no refutation as to its truth. And the punishment is thus decreed: this American citizen will now be murdered by the CIA because Barack Obama has ordered that it be done. What kind of person could possibly justify this or think that this is a legitimate government power?

Just to get a sense for how extreme this behavior is, consider -- as the NYT reported -- that not even George Bush targeted American citizens for this type of extra-judicial killing (though a 2002 drone attack in Yemen did result in the death of an American citizen). Even more strikingly, Antonin Scalia, in the 2004 case of Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, wrote an Opinion (joined by Justice Stevens) arguing that it was unconstitutional for the U.S. Government merely to imprison (let alone kill) American citizens as "enemy combatants"; instead, they argued, the Constitution required that Americans be charged with crimes (such as treason) and be given a trial before being punished. The full Hamdi Court held that at least some due process was required before Americans could be imprisoned as "enemy combatants." Yet now, Barack Obama is claiming the right not merely to imprison, but to assassinate far from any battlefield, American citizens with no due process of any kind. Even GOP Congressman Pete Hoekstra, when questioning Adm. Blair, recognized the severe dangers raised by this asserted power.

And what about all the progressives who screamed for years about the Bush administration's tyrannical treatment of Jose Padilla? Bush merely imprisoned Padilla for years without a trial. If that's a vicious, tyrannical assault on the Constitution -- and it was -- what should they be saying about the Nobel Peace Prize winner's assassination of American citizens without any due process?

All of this underscores the principal point made in this excellent new article by Eli Lake, who compellingly and comprehensively documents what readers here well know: that while Obama's "speeches and some of his administration’s policy rollouts have emphasized a break from the Bush era," the reality is that the administration has retained and, in some cases, built upon the core Bush/Cheney approach to civil liberties and Terrorism. As Al Gore asked in his superb 2006 speech protesting Bush's "War on the Constitution":

Can it be true that any president really has such powers under our Constitution?

If the answer is yes, then under the theory by which these acts are committed, are there any acts that can on their face be prohibited?

If the president has the inherent authority to eavesdrop on American citizens without a warrant, imprison American citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what can't he do?

Notice the power that was missing from Gore's indictment of Bush radicalism: the power to kill American citizens. Add that to the litany -- as Obama has now done -- and consider how much more compelling Gore's accusatory questions become.

UPDATE: When Obama was seeking the Democratic nomination, the Constitutional Law Scholar answered a questionnaire about executive power distributed by The Boston Globe's Charlie Savage, and this was one of his answers:

5. Does the Constitution permit a president to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants?

[Obama]: No. I reject the Bush Administration's claim that the President has plenary authority under the Constitution to detain U.S. citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.

So back then, Obama said the President lacks the power merely to detain U.S. citizens without charges. Now, as President, he claims the power to assassinate them without charges. Could even his hardest-core loyalists try to reconcile that with a straight face? As Spencer Ackerman documents today, not even John Yoo claimed that the President possessed the power Obama is claiming here.

UPDATE II: If you're going to go into the comment section -- or anywhere else -- and argue that this is all justified because Awlaki is an Evil, Violent, Murdering Terrorist Trying to Kill Americans, you should say how you know that. Generally, guilt is determined by having a trial where the evidence is presented and the accused has an opportunity to defend himself -- not by putting blind authoritarian faith in the unchecked accusations of government leaders, even if it happens to be Barack Obama. That's especially true given how many times accusations of Terrorism by the U.S. Government have proven to be false.

UPDATE III: Congratulations, Barack Obama: you're now to the Right of National Review on issues of executive power and due process, as Kevin Williamson objects: "Surely there has to be some operational constraint on the executive when it comes to the killing of U.S. citizens. . . . Odious as Awlaki is, this seems to me to be setting an awful and reckless precedent. " But Andy McCarthy -- who is about the most crazed Far Right extremist on such matters as it gets, literally -- is as pleased as can be with what Obama is doing (or, as Gawker puts it, "Obama Does Something Bloodthirsty Enough to Please the Psychos").

UPDATE IV: Keith Olbermann's coverage of this story was quite good tonight -- see here.
I have mixed feelings about this. IMHO that douchebag Anwar al-Awlaki needs to be erased from the face of the planet, but he is technically still a US citizen so I guess he deserves a trail. Is this only an issue because hes a citizen? Is it not naive to think that we aren't "removing" people who annoy us from time to time? And would you not maybe want to keep the story under wraps if you were whacking people? Discuss.
 
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Pesqueeb

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This might be the only thing they actually cheer him on about.



Why?


Because it flies directly in the face of everything they claim to advocate so it would be completely consistent. :D
This is true. The teabagger crowd will certainly take the angle that this is what a "man" should do as president. What I find most striking is the lack of reaction from the right.
 

jonKranked

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my questions:

1 - this seems like a single incident / case, not a carte blanche to assassinate citizens, is this correct?

2 - The person that has been targeted is - based on gathered intelligence - to be fighting for the enemy. What - if any - are the laws and regulations regarding individuals who are defectors and/or commit treasonous acts?
 

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my questions:

1 - this seems like a single incident / case, not a carte blanche to assassinate citizens, is this correct?

2 - The person that has been targeted is - based on gathered intelligence - to be fighting for the enemy. What - if any - are the laws and regulations regarding individuals who are defectors and/or commit treasonous acts?
That was my thought as well. I see a similarity to us killing Confederate soldiers in the Civil War while they were away from the battlefield. There comes a time when you've taken up arms with the enemy that you relinquish your benefits as a US citizen...
 

jonKranked

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That was my thought as well. I see a similarity to us killing Confederate soldiers in the Civil War while they were away from the battlefield. There comes a time when you've taken up arms with the enemy that you relinquish your benefits as a US citizen...
What I don't get, is why this guy, but not Adam Yahiye Gadahn ( Adam Yahiye Gadahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Gadahn.PNG" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Gadahn.PNG"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/0/04/Gadahn.PNG ) who was actually indicted by a grand jury for treason in 2006 (first time someone has been indicted in over half a century)
 

$tinkle

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is this similar in toothlessness to clinton's iraq liberation act of '98? that is, we have it on paper as a matter of policy, but is it actionable? he's just establishing pretext for the R in office, methinks.
 

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I got to this sentence
It is simply asserted that Awlaki has converted from a cleric who expresses anti-American views and advocates attacks on American military targets (advocacy which happens to be Constitutionally protected)
and figured out the author is an idiot.
 

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I got to this sentence


and figured out the author is an idiot.
Are you making the claim that you cannot advocate an attack on US targets if you are a US citizen?

There's a whole lot of GOP politicians, hacks, flunkies, and pundits who are walking that tightrope. And as much as I hate Glenn Beck, I'd rather he die of a cocaine overdose than an assassination by his own government.
 
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jonKranked

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Are you making the claim that you cannot advocate an attack on US targets if you are a US citizen?

There's a whole lot of GOP politicians, hacks, flunkies, and pundits who are walking a tightrope. And as much as I hate Glenn Beck, I'd rather he die of a cocaine overdose than an assassination by his own government.
but what if the gov't is supplying him the cocaine? :confused:
 

X3pilot

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Are you making the claim that you cannot advocate an attack on US targets if you are a US citizen?

There's a whole lot of GOP politicians, hacks, flunkies, and pundits who are walking that tightrope. And as much as I hate Glenn Beck, I'd rather he die of a cocaine overdose than an assassination by his own government.
No, I was refering to the claim that advocating attacks on US troops by the group that you are affliated with that happens to be a terrorist organization, while you are not living in this country is NOT constitutionally protected advocacy.
 

$tinkle

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but what if the gov't is supplying him the cocaine? :confused:
i guess we'll have to dig up charlie wilson to answer that

but i picture beck's fate as being more like to come from malcolm mcdowell in caligula where he's force fed tea
 

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No, I was refering to the claim that advocating attacks on US troops by the group that you are affliated with that happens to be a terrorist organization, while you are not living in this country is NOT constitutionally protected advocacy.
Source please?

It's actually specifically covered (according to Greenwald, who cites some actual case law)

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/02/04/assassinations

Keep in mind it's a short little hop to assassinating people who have supported the IRA by this logic. After all, the British are our allies in the war on terror, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_T._King
 
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X3pilot

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Source please?

It's actually specifically covered (according to Greenwald, who cites some actual case law)

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/02/04/assassinations

Keep in mind it's a short little hop to assassinating people who have supported the IRA by this logic. After all, the British are our allies in the war on terror, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_T._King
Yeah, guess I opened my mouth a little too quick. But, why wouldn;t this work:

Constitution said:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Granted, you have to have 2 witness corraberate the fact and he hasn't been accused of anything yet, but I personally view making specific threats against US Mlitary targets as an act of war. (And please don't bother quoting to me that we are not in a declared war with them, I'm aware of that) This, therefore denies constitutional protection to make threats against military targets. You can rail all you want about the country, the government, policy, etc., but the way I understand it is as soon as you make a threat, plot, or intent of action of any violent sort, intending to to do harm and cause destruction to US Forces, you have crossed that line.

And for the record, I don't support the President having the authority to order assinations, even though they all have and will continue to...
 

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You need a treason conviction. Which means a public trial, judges, evidence...all that stuff.

If they can make that case, let them make it.