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Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by blue, Jan 3, 2008.
Thank God...I'm hoping this will propel him past Clinton. Huckabee projected to win on the GOP side.
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just as long as it aint billary
The world order is fixed and has been since WWII. Mark my word, Billary, Billary, Billary showing in 2009. The rest is just drama to keep the masses happy and feel empowered. It's all just an illusion the people in control promote to make us feel like we have some control.
D: Obama 37.53; Edwards 29.88; Clinton 29.41
R: Huckabee 34; Romney 25; Thompson 14; McCain 13%; Paul 10%
Headshot to Hillary!
Wow. She's fvcked.
I suppose the Ron Paul supporters can go home now.
When you poll 4% lower than a guy who doesn't even give a **** about winning, your goose is cooked...
I have a question for Huckabee supporters: Do you think he would have pardoned that rapist if he was gay?
what does that say about Rudy "Mr 4%" Giuliani??
I finally heard Hillary speak. Man...have her speaches always been that boring?
I didn't even notice he was the running the past month. Apparently answering 9/11 to ever single question is too stupid for even Americans (Republican ones at that!) to fall for.
Edwards did quite well for himself.
Very interesting. Hillary will be looking hard at New Hampshire.
Fack though, Huckabee - what an asshole. He needs to not win anymore. Don't people learn?
To that 34% of Iowa:
Rudy.... Who? irate2:
I don't think Bill is very happy this morning.
1. This was the IOWA caucus, not the American caucus. If you noticed the crowds around the politicians the last 2 months, ain't exactly a good representation of the nation.
2. Rarely, like once, has a candidate that won Iowa gone on to get the party nomination
3. Bible thumping white people live in Iowa, any surprise they picked a preacher? Plus, those people don't like bossy white women either, that's why Edwards made such a showing. Can't explain why they liked Obama other than the youthful change the world attitude reminded the boomers of Camelot. That and he's from neighboring Illinois. And spent 9 million dollars campaining there....oh and Oprah.
4. Did anybody by chance watch the caucus live on C-span?? If you did, then you see what a clusterfvck the whole process is. I've seen high schools elect homecoming queens with better orginization and democratic process than that crap.
In other words, we learned nothing except we narrowed the field a bit by losing Dodd and Biden and they're going to kiss Hillary's ass to get a cabinet seat.
Here is the link to the official GOP results:
In the coverage I've been reading, Iowa is a deeply religious state so it isn't surprising that Huckabee and Romney scored the lion's share of primary votes.
The next three are close enough that they seem tied for third to me, but regardless, I'd call 5th a pretty impressive showing for someone the media continues to ignore.
In the upcoming FAUX NH debate (forum, whatever) they claimed they only had room for 5 candidates, so does this mean that now Paul gets a seat?
I thought I heard Thompson say that if he didn't take 2nd in Iowa he was dropping out of the race. So does this mean that Paul finished 4th? Sweet.
Most importantly, Transcend can stop talking about Paul's 2% national polling numbers... 10% baby! 10%!
Off to New Hampshire, the "live free or die" state. How do you think Ron Paul's message of liberty and freedom will play there?
If we elect another right wing nutjob, I may have to seriously ponder the meaning vow I took about "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
why do you hate democracy so much?
He doesn't, he hates psuedo-dickatorships.
whatever... we all know it makes no difference what the President's party affiliation is since they are all owned by the same masters.
Here is an interesting link. It has 2 videos in which CNN and FAUX news agree a 10% showing for Ron Paul is impressive and note that he was only a few points behind McCain and Thompson. They all said to watch out for an impressive showing for Paul in New Hampshire.
pretty pointless because NH doesn't reflect the rest of the nation... but whatever.
It all adds up.
Neither Iowa or NH are America, but they are part of it. The theory is that an impressive showing in these states helps build momentum to win in still more states. YMMV.
He isnt going to win. FYI.
the main problem with the party primary system now days is that the candidates must pander to the hardcore denizens who are active in campaigns long before the mainstream member even give a sh!t since they are the ones who generally care enough to even bother vote in a primary.
Thanks for the tip. Ever find a candidate that matches your values?
not since Ronald Reagan...
I think a Mccain/Kucinich tag team gets closest. Fingers crossed.
May be one of the few times I agree. I did like McCain until I dug a little and found out he has an extremly violent temper.
He seemed a bit more reasonble a few years back. He seems to have got wayyy more hardout-nazi-nutjob recently.
He did, and he has. I think desperation has set in and he wants to be POTUS no matter who's bum he has to snuggle up to.
You need to read this.
Exactly what I've been saying since the race began (well, except the Reagan part). He appeals to everyone. Even my hardcore conservative Mormon parents living in rural Utah like him more than any other candidates.
That's gotta be a horseman of the apocalypse...my parents and I agreeing on something political.
I wish I could support Obama, being that he is my Senator and all.
Unfortunately, he puts Israel, and not America first. Oh, and he isn't planning to end the war anytime soon.
Maybe we like war after all.